It begs the question
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justplainbob
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I agree, Jeff.
These hooligans just lowered themselves to the level of racial hate groups like blmm (black lives matter more) and antifa. I consider myself a conservative, but no way will I support the actions that were taken yesterday in our nation's capitol by these trump supporters.
edwardware
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I hear you, and don't disagree. . . but keep in mind that many moments in history we imagine as well-ordered and coherent were in fact extraordinarily chaotic. What do you think the local newspaper's coverage looked like after the Boston Massacre (or the Boston Tea Party)?
History only seems coherent in hindsight; it's uniformly surprising, and frequently shockingly ugly, as it's occurring.
The Last Outlaw
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I have to give them a little credit. At least they went to the one place where they could accomplish something. Didn't work, but they tried. Plus, the guy at Pelosi's desk was hilarious.
justplainbob
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Very well thought out, Edward. I liked how you put it.
Whether it's on the streets of a city or the halls & offices of Congress... Riot and vandalism is nothing more than an insult to the peace and dignity of society. It's not activism, it's not revolution, it's not even protest. It's naked violence and needs to have the offenders charged with a crime. Dad told me of a President that called for a "kinder, gentler nation" and if this is the result it's time to go back to kicking butt and naming names.
.44 Associate
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This was no revolution. Not even an attempt at one. This was a clown show put on by deeply unserious people.
Since Trump announced his run the left, 95% of the media and a good amount of the Republican hierarchy has done everything possible to bring this turmoil to fruition. They revel in it, their righteous indignation rings hollow. Never let a tragedy go to waist, especially if you helped create it.
As you sow, so shall you reap. Bloods been spilled. Millions of people who loath liberalism now have martyrs. This is not going to end with the change in government. Many don’t believe the election was above board, those who won don’t care if it was. I wish all this were not so.
To be continued.
As you sow, so shall you reap. Bloods been spilled. Millions of people who loath liberalism now have martyrs. This is not going to end with the change in government. Many don’t believe the election was above board, those who won don’t care if it was. I wish all this were not so.
To be continued.
theotherwaldo
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I think that you will find that the group that had invaded the halls of government was heavily infiltrated by members of the leftist groups who helped to instigate this mess. Goats to lead the sheep... .
The Last Outlaw
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Or maybe they were just a bunch of pissed off people with no plan. Like the guy that was in Pelosi's office, just a pissed off jackass. It was funny though.
WrongHanded
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Whilst that's certainly a possibility, like with almost any political accusation I hear these days, I'm going to require some actual evidence before I give it any real consideration. That's just me though.
theotherwaldo
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They're already coming out of the woodwork, bragging about how they led those fools to their doom... .
It’s not an insurrection if your intent was to not overthrow government. Words are so overused that they have to keep upping those words until all meaning is lost. They being politicians and news media. They were angry, upset people redressing grievance. Not in a good way mind you, but that doesn’t change their purpose.
Howland937
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I find it ironic that the people who engaged in crashing the Capitol were immediately deemed "rioters" while people doing the same thing for nearly a year in cities across the country are still merely protestors.
It's still stupid though. It would be entirely hypocritical to have condemned the rioting and looting worldwide all summer and not condemn this behavior. Not activism. Not revolution. Just a plain old criminal temper tantrum, and a marvelous way to show they're no better than the people they're bitching about.
It's still stupid though. It would be entirely hypocritical to have condemned the rioting and looting worldwide all summer and not condemn this behavior. Not activism. Not revolution. Just a plain old criminal temper tantrum, and a marvelous way to show they're no better than the people they're bitching about.
NIGHTLORD40K
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Dont discount that the CCP had a hand in the events there either. Their intelligence services actively support and encourage extremists of all stripes in the US to sow chaos. You can bet there were PLA operatives at the forefront of the Capitol attack, armed with flashdrives and looking for unsecured data access points.
Of course, overthrowing by violence the latest election WAS the point, and therefore, it was sedition insurrection.
WrongHanded
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The concept of a "Silent Majority" is a big part of the problem here. Because there's clearly a group of people unwilling to consider even the possibility that the actual majority of voters don't want Trump as President.