Worst President

The Last Outlaw

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After some reading I have done, I would say that George Washington was one of our worst presidents.
When he fought in the Revolution, he would not take a salary, only wanted them to pay his expenses. The bill for his "expenses" was four hundred and fifty thousand dollars. When he became president, he tried the same thing. This time, Congress said, "No thanks, we will pay you a salary."

When the Whiskey Rebellion broke out, the first thing Washington did was order all their arms be taken. Was the ink even dry on the second amendment when he decided to violate it?
 

roscoe

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Ya, there is that, not to his credit. The Executive branch has continued downhill ever since.

Local or state rule has always been something politicians have paid lip service to, but .gov has always been the institution calling the shots. From day one. Really, though, the states haven't really showed themselves capable of handling very much responsibility.
 

10mm Mike

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Local or state rule has always been something politicians have paid lip service to, but .gov has always been the institution calling the shots. From day one. Really, though, the states haven't really showed themselves capable of handling very much responsibility.

Depends on the state. Some of them are every bit as bad as you say and even worse. But there are some others that aren't too bad... not that I would go as far as to say that they are good, but "not too bad" seems appropriate.
 

roscoe

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Depends on the state. Some of them are every bit as bad as you say and even worse. But there are some others that aren't too bad... not that I would go as far as to say that they are good, but "not too bad" seems appropriate.

From Huey Long's broad corruption to George Wallace's crazy racist refusal to accept the orders of the Supreme Court to Rod Blagojevich's selling of open political seats, it is hard to see why we have so much faith in state government. I think more than 2 dozen governors have been convicted of corruption, let alone the other moral offenses associated with Jim Crow.
 

Howland937

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From Huey Long's broad corruption to George Wallace's crazy racist refusal to accept the orders of the Supreme Court to Rod Blagojevich's selling of open political seats, it is hard to see why we have so much faith in state government. I think more than 2 dozen governors have been convicted of corruption, let alone the other moral offenses associated with Jim Crow.
For further reference, the bribery scheme in the Ohio State House involving the bailout of nuclear plants... Where the speaker lost his position, however remains a state representative. A key figure in the case was found dead in his Florida residence yesterday. No cause has been given, but it's been deemed "suspicious".

FYI, the former speaker is a republican.
 

roscoe

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For further reference, the bribery scheme in the Ohio State House involving the bailout of nuclear plants... Where the speaker lost his position, however remains a state representative. A key figure in the case was found dead in his Florida residence yesterday. No cause has been given, but it's been deemed "suspicious".

FYI, the former speaker is a republican.

Neither party has a monopoly on corruption. I come from Maryland originally, and with former governors Spiro Agnew and Marvin Mandell, we like to spread it around.

In general, state and local politics tend to be more corrupt than national politics, but that is because of the scrutiny the politicians get at the federal level, not because they are inherently less corrupt.
 

10mm Mike

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Neither party has a monopoly on corruption. I come from Maryland originally, and with former governors Spiro Agnew and Marvin Mandell, we like to spread it around.

In general, state and local politics tend to be more corrupt than national politics, but that is because of the scrutiny the politicians get at the federal level, not because they are inherently less corrupt.

Again, I think that depends on the region. In your area, Maryland, yeah it probably is more corrupt than the federal level. Places like Chicago and New Jersey are too. But not every local is Maryland, Chicago, and New Jersey.

Not that I'm arguing that there are some places with 0% corruption and are near perfection, just that they aren't as bad as the corruption at the federal level.
 

10mm Mike

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To go back to the thread topic, my top 5 worst presidents:

  1. FDR
  2. LBJ
  3. obama
  4. clinton
  5. up for grabs, but at his current rate biden will have this spot locked up and may give obama a run for his money at #3
 
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