Trump Claims GOP for MAGA

wiscoaster

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Some take-aways from Pres. Trump's speech at CPAC 2021:

1) "MAGA" is a movement, not a political election slogan
2) He has no plans to start a third political party
3) The Republican Party is the party of MAGA
4) Establishment RINOs are unwelcome in this party
5) Republicans must more unified with a stronger backbone
6) He is interested in running again in 2024

A couple takeaways from the CPAC straw polls:

An overwhelming 95% of CPAC attendees favored continuing the Trump agenda, whether he runs again or not. A smaller majority of 68% want him to be the next nominee, but with the plethora of names on the straw poll ballot from which to choose, that's still a pretty meaningful majority.
 
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"4) Establishment RINOs are unwelcome in this party"

and

"5) Republicans must more unified with a stronger backbone"

should jump out at people. You're not going to unify the party by dividing them up into "True Believers" vs. everyone else.

And that is one of the troubles with Donald Trump: he feeds off of division and encourages it with nearly every action.

Getting away from all his personal bullshit, I'm on board with most of his administration's stated goals; the "Trump agenda". I think that putting the man forward for another term would be political suicide, though.
 
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The problem is getting everybody on board with this. CPAC attendee statistics will not directly translate into Conservatives overall statistics. It's a select grouping of people by nature, so their views will all tend to swing in one direction.

To continue the "Trump agenda", whatever that may be, requires Conservatives as a whole to get off their collective keisters and DO something meaningful AT THE POLLS.

Biden wasn't elected on his platform, not by a long shot.

Biden was elected because the Never-Trumpers collectively worked together for the sole purpose of voting Trump out, no matter the cost and no matter who the Democrats had running.

If the DNC Primary had nominated Pinky and the Brain as their candidates, then Warner Bros would be running the teleprompter right now.
 
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RetiredUSNChief said:
The problem is getting everybody on board with this. CPAC attendee statistics will not directly translate into Conservatives overall statistics. It's a select grouping of people by nature, so their views will all tend to swing in one direction.

To continue the "Trump agenda", whatever that may be, requires Conservatives as a whole to get off their collective keisters and DO something meaningful AT THE POLLS.

Biden wasn't elected on his platform, not by a long shot.

Biden was elected because the Never-Trumpers collectively worked together for the sole purpose of voting Trump out, no matter the cost and no matter who the Democrats had running.

If the DNC Primary had nominated Pinky and the Brain as their candidates, then Warner Bros would be running the teleprompter right now.
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Hmm. Maybe. I'm not a Never Trumper, but I still thought he has a lousy candidate and a crummy person. I imagine there were/are a lot of folks like me who really struggled with casting a vote for him.

The Dems ran a truly terrible set of candidates as well, and it was Trump's election to lose - which is exactly what he did. There is little reason to think he would do any better next time around. I think Biden/Harris will be exceptionally beatable in '24. I just hope the Republicans run someone who hasn't already lost to them.
 
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I think Biden/Harris will be exceptionally beatable in '24. I just hope the Republicans run someone who hasn't already lost to them.
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I don't think it will be Biden/Harris. More likely it will be Harris/someone else.

Biden isn't going to make it through his term, in my opinion. He just ain't all there in his noggin.

Harris running for President with someone else after a term as VP, however, is another story. Do NOT discount the power of her attraction to the Left voter base as not only a woman, but a non-white woman who is not of geriatric age.

The Left would move mountains in the same manner demonstrated by the Never-Trumpers to elect her.

The Democrats are positioned very nicely for the next election, and possibly the one after that because of this.

That does not bode well on several levels.

Trump bought us time...but the Democrats moved their chess pieces in an incredible en passant move that cleared the board for some big game pieces to move.
 
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RetiredUSNChief said:
They haven't been in political power as long as they have for nothing. They're masters of political chess, never assume otherwise.
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That's what, six weeks now? And they've already thrown a great deal of capital down the drain. Give 'em another three years and change. I expect we will be desperate for someone - anyone! - else by then. (Except Donald Trump. Maybe.)
 
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Liberals stick together WAY better than we do as Conservatives. They focus on big picture.
We (in contrast) attack fellow Conservatives for unpaid parking tickets. That is why they win.

On July 18, 1969 their spiritual leader Ted Kennedy drunkenly drove off a bridge into a shallow pond.
He left a terrified and alive 28 y.o. Mary Jo Kopechne to die alone in the water without adequately seeking help.

Liberals did not criticize him. Not ever.
Look as mass murdering Governor Cuomo for a modern example.
 
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That's what, six weeks now? And they've already thrown a great deal of capital down the drain. Give 'em another three years and change. I expect we will be desperate for someone - anyone! - else by then. (Except Donald Trump. Maybe.)
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Six weeks?

I'm talking the life of the Democrat Party.

Politicians come and politicians go...but the Party lives on.
 
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Six weeks?

I'm talking the life of the Democrat Party.

Politicians come and politicians go...but the Party lives on.
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Well, sometimes they are in power and sometimes they are not. I figure they've got two years of carte blanche - and I blame Trump almost entirely for that - followed by two years of gridlock, for which Democrat overreach will be the culprit, as always. 2024? My crystal ball doesn't work too well that far ahead - but I'm betting if the Republicans can put forward someone like Dan Crenshaw, the electorate will be all over him.
 
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Well, sometimes they are in power and sometimes they are not. I figure they've got two years of carte blanche - and I blame Trump almost entirely for that - followed by two years of gridlock, for which Democrat overreach will be the culprit, as always. 2024? My crystal ball doesn't work too well that far ahead - but I'm betting if the Republicans can put forward someone like Dan Crenshaw, the electorate will be all over him.
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The thing is they're in power ALL the time.

Just because they may not hold the majority at any given time on the federal level (House, Senate, White House, Supreme Court) doesn't mean they do not have their hands on the reins of power...either there or elsewhere.

And when they're not in majority in some places, their legacy still remains during that time. And their vote base is constantly being tracked, analyzed, and manipulated.

Don't forget that meme we've all probably seen that says "What if I told you the Left Wing and the Right Wing belong to the same bird?" There is great truth in this.

The swamp is real. And both political parties feed off of, and enable, the other.
 
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