The New World Order

WrongHanded

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Unlike my last thread on climate change, I have no data, evidence or insight into this concept. So I'm not going to spend much time arguing with anyone about it, though I do think the idea is pretty far fetched.

So please, if you have any thoughts about the NWO and how it will destroy the American way of life or whatever else, share in as much detail as you'd like.

Personally, I don't think the rich and powerful need any more control to get what they want. But perhaps I'm missing something.

Thoughts?
 

TomJ

Member
Their music wasn't my cup of tea, but saying it would destroy the American way of life is a little harsh. Didn't they say that about the Beatles?

 

X62503

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Didn't they say that about the Beatles?
Only if you listen to the records playing backwards. The OP seems to be advocating for equality, but there are rich and powerful types in every system, left and right, capitalist and communist, and always will be, until we live in the vague Utopia that is Star Trek.
 

WrongHanded

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The OP seems to be advocating for equality, but there are rich and powerful types in every system, left and right, capitalist and communist, and always will be, until we live in the vague Utopia that is Star Trek.
Actually, in this case, I'm not advocating for anything. But having heard off the cuff comments about the NWO here and there, I'm interested in who believe in this conspiracy theory. And why.

Of course there are rich and powerful people in every society (of a certain size or larger). But what I wonder is what would be gained through some sort of shadowy worldwide take over, that those people rich and powerful enough to organize such a thing don't already have.
 

George P

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New world order (politics)

This article is about the use of the term "new world order" in international politics. For the conspiracy theory, see New World Order (conspiracy theory). For other uses, see New World Order (disambiguation).
The term "new world order" refers to a new period of history evidencing dramatic change in world political thought and the balance of power. Despite varied interpretations of this term, it is primarily associated with the ideological notion of world governance only in the sense of new collective efforts to identify, understand, or address global problems that go beyond the capacity of individual nation-states to solve.
The phrase "new world order" or similar language was used in the period toward the end of the First World War in relation to Woodrow Wilson's vision for international peace;[a] Wilson called for a League of Nations to prevent aggression and conflict. The phrase was used to a degree at the end of World War II when describing the plans for the United Nations and the Bretton Woods system partly because of its negative associations with the failed League of Nations. However, many commentators have applied the term retroactively to the order put in place by the World War II victors as a "new world order."

The Socialist Wilson was one of the major voices in starting it.
 

Magnum

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I believe certain political figures would like a NWO or centralized global government. Half of our country wants more government, more regulations, beaurocricy and less individual freedom. Anytime I can't see a clear objective I figure it has to be about money, I would highly doubt it would be for world peace.

I would think that people who would want a NWO could see opportunities to obtain the resources of certain countries without a need to negotiate price, control of all citizens on earth with no safe place from extradition and a way to impose a communism onto all of us.

A lot of people have mentioned this Obama clip when talking NWO, many have said that's not what he meant. Either way , scumbag commie president says "surrender your rights", no thanks. Not in any context , not in any situation or for any reason.

We have to fight to keep our sovereignty, more now than ever. The first step to losing what we have is the cancel culture that the left pushes, destroy history that is disagreeable or speech that is offensive to some, then open the borders to an unlimited number of people, take our guns and means of self reliance and defence, raise taxes to provide for those who refuse to provide, take everything we hold dear and replace it with some version of it that an all powerful beaurocricy sees fit. These are goals of people that have been elected and all of those things they freely admit , they don't even attempt to sugar coat it.

So is there a push for a NWO? I don't know, I really hope it's a conspiracy theory. If that time ever does come I can promise everyone I love that I'll be there to do what I can to stop it, shoulder to shoulder with my fellow patriots, even if I'm 100 years old.

This is why I (and many others) take such deep offense to BLM & ANTIFA (and others) burning or disrespecting our flag and country. There is only one America , one speck of liberty and freedom left on the globe and they dismiss it as evil. Anyone who wants socialism / communism (same thing) can find countless countries where they can go live their dream. There is nowhere else for freedom. Try burning a Chinese flag in china, see what happens. Try owning weapons to defend your family or simply provide food in most countries , it's not going to happen.

Assholes like George Soros want control over people's lives without being elected, they want to disarm you and tax you until you're nothing but a subject. That's not an opinion, it's well known . democrats want us to pay for endless programs that can't justify cost or provide any meaningful aide . the only thing the government needs to do is shrink dramatically , protect our homeland from foreign nations and protect the citizens from criminals - not much else. It's gotten so perverted over the years that we have people going insane when something they think they deserve is taken. Everything that's given by the government is taken from somebody else. Everything the government gives is one step closer to communism and a NWO.

If i had to guess, I think some people want a NWO. They might think thats utopia and all needs will be provided for. In reality it's the opposite. You can compare the poorest people in the US to the poorest of pretty much any other nation, it's no comparison. I would rather be homeless on the streets of any US city than "wealthy" in a place where you don't have rights, where a dictator can accuse you of anything and strip you of everything or poor in a place like Burma , zero chance you'll get ahead no matter what you do.

I hope some of these young folks wake up and start to value the freedom we have or we will lose it soon.
 

X62503

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I'm interested in who believe in this conspiracy theory.
I mistook your statements as a summary of what prevails in the minds of the "takers" regarding the "producers" - what Magnum writes above, not as curiosity regarding the historic "NWO" - what George P writes above. Both interpretations however are very real threats to those who value above most things individual liberty. Describing what these two men (and I) believe as threats to individual liberty a "conspiracy theory" only reveals your own thoughts on the matter. Hope you get an answer to your questions!
 

WrongHanded

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Interesting stuff, guys.

Describing what these two men (and I) believe as threats to individual liberty a "conspiracy theory" only reveals your own thoughts on the matter. Hope you get an answer to your questions!
I would consider the idea of an elite group covertly seeking world dominant to be a "conspiracy". And unless there's an abundance of evidence, I'd have to call that idea a "theory" (in a non-scientific sense). I'm assuming there isn't much evidence, but perhaps I'm incorrect. Though if there were, it wouldn't be a very successful conspiracy now would it.

Do I believe there are some pushing for communism in the US? Sure. Do I believe there are more pushing for a greater degree of socialism? Yes, I believe that too. Do I believe there are some elites that would like to rule the world? Yeah, I can believe that. But I don't think most of the people in most of the countries of the world would be okay with that. As much as Americans love American; the French love France; and the Japanese love Japan. Every country is different - I would consider each unique - so I don't see anyone being thrilled about the idea of a one world government. Though I can absolutely understand the need for some international governing bodies, for trade and human rights and the like.

So forgive me, if you believe I'm thinking ill of any of you for loving your country or your liberties and freedoms. That's not the case. I'm just interested in what the NWO means to you, and how you think it would affect your lives and futures. Because honestly, I'm just not seeing it. The EU was the closest thing to a one world government I can think of, and even that got too handsy for the UK.
 

X62503

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Understood. To me, the NWO is symbolic of the few (person or group of persons, government or group of governments) that wish to control the lives, liberties, and properties of the many. These days, in the United States, the NWO is represented chiefly by what the Democrat party has evolved into (not sure the spectrum has a name yet); however, the Republican party establishment certainly isn't off the hook. My philosophy of existence (I am not a meddler in others' thoughts, affairs, or actions) does not imply consent. At some fluid point, as has been demonstrated throughout history, people eventually rescind their consent and rise against the NWO to reclaim lost liberty. The longevity of the United States is due in large part to individual liberty as documented in our Bill Of Rights which, in my opinion, is threatened and has been so, though more incrementally in the past than recently, for some time, and this is no conspiracy theory.
 

WrongHanded

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These days, in the United States, the NWO is represented chiefly by what the Democrat party has evolved into (not sure the spectrum has a name yet)
Would you mind expounding on this point. I realize that the Democrats have moved towards the left in a number of ways. On some points I agree with them. On others, I disagree. I certainly see they want to further infringe upon the 2A, but beyond that I'm mainly seeing a move towards wealth redistribution focused on funding public programs and aid. And truthfully, I don't see that as a bad idea, depending largely on how it is done.
 

X62503

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In my opinion, redistribution of wealth, beyond a certain point and certain ends (we're there), is theft by appropriation, whether performed by hook (the government, with its penalties for non-compliance being deprivation of life, liberty, and [more] property enforced by its various agencies), or by crook (ANTIFA Marxists, Robin Hood), whether real (IRS) or fantasy (Occupy Wall Street) and has absolutely no moral basis. Democrats and Republicans alike endlessly seek to confiscate my earnings, ever gluttonous to the point of existing only to feed themselves and those takers (poor people, General Motors) at their teats with little (Republican) to no (Democrat) relief. If Marc Zuckerberg or you decided I wasn't giving enough and sought to raid my earnings by whatever means, you would be imprisoned. Because you petition the government to do it for you, does not in any way make it right or just, despite how many takers vote the thieves into office to enact their want of my property. Individuals live and die by their choices; I should not be compelled to fund or soften the consequences. I would prefer a flat base tax on every soul's earnings, to fund the nation (transportation, military forces). Those who wish to redistribute their wealth to those who cannot or will not work could "opt in" for additional "investment opportunities." My wife and I give monthly to a list of about two dozen charities. That act has a moral basis.
 

Magnum

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but beyond that I'm mainly seeing a move towards wealth redistribution focused on funding public programs and aid. And truthfully, I don't see that as a bad idea, depending largely on how it is done.
Wealth distribution is a major issue. No, I'm not wealthy. Didn't grow up with much but I've worked extremely hard to provide for myself and my family, I shouldn't be required to pay more in taxes or penalties because I'm not a deadbeat. Beyond that democrats love talking about taxing the rich, that's wrong. The richest people provide jobs for citizens, products and services that we need, essential things. With risk comes reward, if the business fails nobody hands the owner money to start again bit if they're successful there's a Democrat barking that they need to pay now. This destroys innovation and removes incentives to succeed , what's the point if you'll be taxed to oblivion if you are successful and left for dead if you fail. The people who are employed lose their livelihood and these are the people who make the gears of our nation turn.

The left loves screaming about how much tax Jeff bezos (or whoever) pays, the point is- how many citizens have jobs because of his business? How much do all those people pay in taxes combined ? Billions. More than if bezos paid what they say he should, plus the service provided and the money pumped into all aspects of owning such a massive business. People like that deserve incentives to operate such a business . over tax the wealthy and they leave, the jobs follow. A wealthy person doesn't need to stay where they're taxed unfairly.

This was a rant but really in essence I'm a 2 topic voter ,(I'm interested in other topics too) but the only 2 I'm immovable on are 2nd amendment issues and taxes. Don't tax me for nonsense and don't come after my guns. I know some taxes are necessary but not nearly what I pay and I honestly believe that all gun laws are infringements. We need less taxes, less programs and less government asap
 

WrongHanded

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I understand that taxing individuals is somewhat of a sore topic. I could say that I don't like paying taxes to fund schools, because I don't use them (no kids). However, a well educated populous is far more beneficial to me, than keeping those dollars to myself.

But when I say wealth redistribution, I'm mainly talking about corporate wealth. When companies like walmart want to hire part-time rather than full-time staff, to avoid providing benefits, the government picks up the Medicaid and food stamp costs. So by extension, the taxpayers cover it. All so walmart can make more profit. Then there's Uber, Lyft, and the whole gig-economy to consider. Which is bad for the "self-employed" workers, and also for full-time employees of competing companies within the same industries. I also dislike the idea of tax amnesties for corporations to repatriate money into the US, especially if they also happen to be corporations that ship jobs overseas to take advantage of cheaper labor markets. Because, at the end of the day, corporations aren't people. They may have the same rights as people, but they aren't human. They don't need the wealth they amass from the backs of hard working people. It could be used for far better purposes. I'm not saying I hate corporations. They're very useful, and could be put to even more use.

Anyway, this is pretty off topic. But what was that about the NWO in the Democrat party?
 

X62503

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In my opinion, the Democrat party, the outspoken proponent of The Nanny State, has become more idealogically aligned with what I regard as the NWO's raison d'être: the few that wish to control to a greater degree than before, the lives, liberties, and properties of the many. Like I said though, the Republican party ain't no angel in that regard. My vote for any office goes to the jackass that intends to infringe the least on my personal liberty.
 

WrongHanded

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In my opinion, the Democrat party, the outspoken proponent of The Nanny State, has become more idealogically aligned with what I regard as the NWO's raison d'être: the few that wish to control to a greater degree than before, the lives, liberties, and properties of the many. Like I said though, the Republican party ain't no angel in that regard. My vote for any office goes to the jackass that intends to infringe the least on my personal liberty.
I appreciate the explanation. And I can certainly see where you're coming from.
 

George P

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Bilderberg

Posted on 28/05/2013 by Anarcho-Mission

tbankersdees
“The interests behind the Bush Administration, such as the CFR, The Trilateral Commission – founded by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller – and the Bilderberger Group, have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens.”
Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl PhD, former adviser to NATO Secretary General, Manfred Werner, 1998.
In the summer of 1954, more than one hundred international bankers and industrialists, members of the surviving royal families of Europe, ambitious politicians, civil servants, academics and media barons, convened at the Bilderberg Hotel in Oosterbeek, Holland. This was the very first meeting of the Bilderberg Group, which meets every summer in a different European or North American five star location, usually with golfing facilities. The meetings have always been shrouded in secrecy, with every participant, including those from the media, bound by a strict code of silence for extremely pragmatic reasons.
“If the Bilderberg Group is not a conspiracy of some sort, it is conducted in such a way as to give a remarkably good imitation of one.”
C. Gordon Tether, London’s Financial Times, 1975.
Following an argument about censorship, Financial Times journalist, C. Gordon Tether, was fired one year after the publication of the above comment, by his editor, Max Henry ‘Freddy’ Fisher, who was also a member of another Bilderberg tentacle, the Trilateral Commission. According to Aldon Hatch’s authorised biography of one of the Bilderberg founders, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, the Dutch prince said that when a person attends Bilderberg he is:
“…magically stripped of his office… When these representatives of the Western establishment leave a Bilderberg meeting they carry the Group’s consensus with them. The high-powered Bilderberg debates are intended to build unity by resolving differences, and therefore certainly have a significant influence on attendees.”
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The first meeting was organised by co-founder of the Council of Europe and Honorary Secretary General of the European Movement, Josef Retinger, with the executive participation of his friend, Prince Bernard, the former card-carrying Nazi S.S. Officer.
Prince Bernard claimed for more than fifty years that his Nazi Party membership was imposed upon him while living in Hitler’s Berlin during the 1930’s. This claim was never substantiated with compelling evidence, but the Dutch royal family continues to enjoy its privileged position as permanent members of the Bilderberg steering committee.
Other permanent Bilderberg members include the Rothschild, Rockefeller, Morgan, Schiff and Warburg banking dynasties, members of the European aristocracy, and a former US Secretary of State who was accused of war crimes on three continents in Christopher Hitchens’ coruscating book, THE TRIAL OF HENRY KISSINGER (2001).
The Bilderbergers aimed from the beginning to succeed where their ill-fated League of Nations venture had failed: to establish totalitarian World Government, the end of the sovereign nation state, dramatic human population reduction and a single global currency. The keys to achieving these goals were control of the planet’s energy resources, economies, science, media, education, politicians, and of course, the masses.
The theory was, if they could place their people anywhere, they could control everything and everyone, for the alleged benefit of ‘the greater good’, more accurately known as the Darwinian preservation of the so-called favoured races and the phasing out of all inferior classes of Man.
The Rothschild funded United Nations was always intended as a forerunner for World Government, in the aftermath of the failure of the League of Nations. Prince Bernhard reputedly believed that another Great Depression could be avoided if a responsible, intellectual elite could manage geopolitical events from behind the scenes, with their power and influence obscured by the necessary public relations exercise. As Hatton wrote in THE RAPE OF THE CONSTITUTION, the purpose of the meetings was to bring together:
“…an Aristocracy of Purpose between Europe and the United States. The NATO alliance was their crucial base of operation, and subversion, because it afforded them the backdrop for their plans of ‘perpetual war’, or at least the ‘nuclear blackmail’ policy.”
Bilderberg Hall of Fame
It’s all-too-easy to reel off dozens of names of the most successful and powerful individuals who have attended a Bilderberg conference the moment before their careers were propelled into hyper-space, but there are a few which immediately take the eye when scanning the verified guest lists at bilderberg.org.
In 1973 an ambitious, peanut-farming Senator from Georgia announced that he was running for the U.S. Presidency. Two years later, in the wake of Watergate and the end of the Vietnam War, Jimmy Carter (pictured below with Barrack Obama’s political mentor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, founding director of the Trilateral Commission) was invited to his first Bilderberg Conference.
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The following year Carter took residence in the White House, making Brzezinski his National Security adviser and filling key positions in his government with mostly Trilateral Commission members. Indeed, according to Daniel Estulin in THE TRUE STORY OF THE BILDERBERG GROUP, an astounding 291 members of the Carter administration were members of either the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), or the Trilateral Commission. As U.S. News and World Report noted at the time:
“The Trilateralists have taken charge of foreign policy-making in the Carter administration, and already the immense power they wield is sparking some controversy. Active or former members of the Trilateral Commission now head every key agency involved in mapping U.S. strategy for dealing with the rest of the World.”
The outspoken Republican Senator and failed presidential candidate, Barry Goldwater, wrote in his book, WITH NO APOLOGIES, that Jimmy Carter was maneuvered into the White House by David Rockefeller and Brzezinski.
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“…they mobilised the money power of the Wall Street bankers, the intellectual influence of the academic community – which is subject to the wealth of the great tax-free foundations – and the media controllers represented in the membership of the CFR and the Trilateral.”
Also at the 1975 Bilderberg conference was an ambitious British politician who had her eye firmly set on becoming the first female Prime Minister of Great Britain. By all accounts it took her two conferences to win over the predominantly middle-aged men in expensive suits, but Henry Kissinger openly admitted that he was “utterly charmed” the first time he saw her address the conference.
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In May 1979, Mrs Thatcher achieved her ambition and set about waging war against Argentina, the unions, working class communities and regulation of trade. According to several Bilderberg insiders, she was forced out of office by the group when she refused to relinquish British sovereignty and the pound, as was her sworn obligation under English constitutional law, but not before preventing Argentina from selling nuclear power to Mexico and initiating the privatisation of Britain’s public utilities.
In early 1991, failed presidential candidate Bill Clinton was still embroiled in the Whitewater Scandal while Governor of Arkansas, when he was invited to Bilderberg by his lawyer and close friend, Lazard Freres’ Vernon Jordan, a life member of the CFR, Bilderberg and a board member of American Express and Xerox. The following year Clinton became President at the second attempt.
While unsubstantiated rumours still circulate about Clinton’s secret career in the CIA during the late 1960’s, allegedly under the command of George H.W. Bush, America’s most charismatic President since JFK (until Obama) has publicly admitted that his first shot at the Oval Office was impeded by lack of financial muscle. All of that changed after his formal introduction to the Bilderberg Group.
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The much less charismatic Tony Blair attended his first Bilderberg Conference in 1993, well before he was even elected leader of the Labour Party. Gordon Brown was also invited to the 1993 conference, but he politely declined the invitation, having already attended in 1991 with the late Labour leader, John Smith. Brown remains resolutely silent on his Bilderberg attendances almost seventeen years after his first conference, although his refusal to tax the super-rich at the expense of those with the lowest incomes is a clear indication where his true allegiance lies.
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In November 2004, allegations were published by the Observer newspaper claiming that Bilderberg members, British American Tobacco, marked out the fiercely ambitious Blair in 1991, as a politician who would be friendly to the tobacco industry, if elected as Prime Minister. When the information was requested, Mr Blair initially refused to compromise the business interests of his dinner guests at Chequers, until he was forced to do so by his own party’s Freedom of Information Act, which Parliament has since neutered. But not before it was confirmed that BAT did dine with the Prime Minister after he was elected, thereby establishing prima facie evidence of at least one conflict of interests.
Then came the Observer revelation in 2005 of rumours in the City of London, that Blair would, like John Major before him, become an international ambassador for the Carlyle Group, a Bilderberg group of defence contractors that has reaped vast profits from the conflicts sanctioned by Blair’s government, under Elizabeth Windsor’s authorisation. The article, along with another printed by the Mirror, has been removed from the internet archives.
Blair and the Carlyle Group
Blair has been tight-lipped about the appointment ever since, although his role as Middle East Peace Envoy, his sudden conversion to Catholicism after leaving office and his possible election as E.U. President seem all the more sinister because of it. If Blair has reconsidered his position, or declined the Carlyle Group’s offer, the knowledge is not yet in the public domain.
His appointment by J.P Morgan in 2008 on a part-time basis, allowing for his equally lucrative appearances on the international lecture circuit and his role as Professor of Religion at Yale University, does not exclude the possibility that he is also be on the Carlyle Group payroll. Although the obvious links between the two companies may have provided Blair with a more publicly palatable alternative.
The Carlyle Group and J.P. Morgan
Gordon Brown revealed himself as incapable of dominating the political stage very early in his stint as Prime Minister, presiding over several reputation damaging calamities; the false-start general election; the collapse of Northern Rock; the credit-crunch caused by the sub-prime mortgage fraud, which was enabled while he was Chancellor of the Exchequer; and multiple government departments losing the personal information of millions of UK citizens.
Perhaps Brown was seen from the beginning as the man to be blamed for Nu-Labour’s deliberate mistakes, before passing the baton to the next generation of Bilderbergers; George Osbourne and Ed Balls. It is well known that nothing in politics happens by accident. Even before Brown reached the anniversary of his accession to president of the corporation of the United Kingdom, a faction of Nu-Labour backbenchers led by Frank Field threatened a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister. Such is the fear of MP’s losing their seats, directorships and expense accounts.
Some who have attended Bilderberg conferences, including Observer journalist, Will Hutton, have acknowledged the group’s power and influence, despite the mainstream media blackout. This has been somewhat thwarted this century by the rise of the independent media on the internet, where Bilderberg insiders consistently leak valuable information, as well as disinformation and predictable denials about the power and influence of the group.
Significantly, former US Ambassador to West Germany, George McGhee, has publicly admitted that the Treaty of Rome, the catalyst for the formation of the Common Market and the European Union, was developed at Bilderberg meetings, as were the plans for the North American, Asian and African Unions, a single currency and World Government.
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“We shall have World Government whether or not you like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”
James Warburg, statement made before the United States Senate on Feb 7th 1950.
Formed by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller in 1973, the Trilateral Commission is another arm of this international corporate banking cabal, as is the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), which has been synonymous with both U.S. foreign policy and public relations since its formation in 1921. It is also widely known as the American branch of the Rothschild-controlled Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA).
Without a hint of hyperbole, nobody in western politics gets mainstream media attention without having the approval of one of these organisations. Similarly, no international corporation can operate successfully without the cooperation of Bilderberg and its international banking and trade cartels.
All-powerful influence at this level cannot be bought cheaply and has taken centuries to acquire. But it has been acquired in secret without public consent, in much the same way our birthrights have been obscured from us by stealth.
bilderbergbook
“…a cesspool of duplicity and lies and double-speak and innuendo and blackmail and bribery. A surreal world of double and triple agents, of changing loyalties, of professional psychotic assassins, brainwashed black-ops agents, soldiers of fortune and mercenaries, whose primary sources of income are the most despicable government-run subversive missions – the kind that can never be exposed.”
Daniel Estulin, The True Story of Bilderberg, 2007.
Daniel Estulin has been investigating Bilderberg for fifteen years. The son of a Russian dissident, Daniel and his family were expelled from the Soviet Union in 1980. After becoming a Canadian citizen, he moved to Madrid fifteen years ago, when he began covering Bilderberg.
Estulin’s grandfather was a KGB counter-intelligence agent during the Cold War, which has provided him with valuable connections within the Secret Intelligence Services. Estulin is confident of the integrity of his sources, who insist that they are only leaking him information because they are patriots, love their countries and are terrified of the plans of the Bilderbergers.
Estulin, who has written the best-selling book, THE TRUE STORY OF THE BILDERBERG GROUP, is certain that the Bilderbergers are, and always have been, in the process of creating the New World Order, as proclaimed by George H.W. Bush in more than one speech during his time in the White House, and echoed by Gordon Brown almost every time he makes a speech to an international audience.
According to Estulin’s book, high on the agenda at the 2005 Bilderberg conference was Iran and the proposed invasion. Henry Kissinger was reported comparing the potential conflict with the Falklands War, which Estulin says was engineered by the Rockefeller-controlled Aspen Institute of Colorado, in order to prevent Argentina from supplying nuclear energy to Mexico and the rest of South and Central America.
Estulin is certain that Bilderberg will stop at nothing to crush any nation that dares to become energy self-sufficient, that Peak Oil and Climate Change are monsters created to enable a global tax on energy, that oil will reach US$200 a barrel and that another Great Depression will ensue, leaving many millions of people homeless, starving, disease-ridden or dead.
Population reduction was also the subject of heated debates at the 2005 conference. As far back as 1974, while Secretary of State Kissinger concluded in a report on the world’s alleged population problem that it should ideally be reduced by 3 billion, meaning the death of 100 million Americans by 2050.
According to the National Centre for Health Statistics, around 2.4 million Americans died during 2005. 1.6 million of those people died from preventable causes. However, the U.S. population increase in 2005 was 1.8 million people, making a net gain of 200,000 people. Nevertheless, this issue remains high on the Bilderberg agenda more than three decades after Kissinger’s report.
American Population Growth and Mortality Rate
Bilderberg are allegedly planning to use a promulgated domestic crisis, such as a food shortage or another ‘terrorist’ attack, possibly nuclear, or even a fake alien invasion, to impose military dictatorship in America, necessarily involving the violent coercion of citizens by U.N. forces and private armies of mercenaries. The entire world, according to Estulin, will then be enslaved by the collectivist global planners, with society as we know it being replaced by a techno-feudal hierarchy of micro-chipped slaves and slave owners.
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“To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial Geo-strategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together.”
Founding director of the Trilateral Commission and Bilderberger, Zbignew Brzezinski, The Grand Chessboard (1997).
Daniel Estulin warned in a 2005 radio interview by Alex Jones that Bilderberg were accelerating their genocidal agenda. David Rockefeller is now in his nineties, with other prominent luminaries such as Lord Rothschild and Henry Kissinger not that far behind him. The Bilderberg cabal seem to be growing impatient for their endgame to be realised, since they are perceptive enough to understand that they cannot sustain their illusion of control without the general compliance of the masses. Without that, every empire has crumbled into dust. Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat the mistakes of the past.
“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents, such as my encounter with Castro, to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions.
Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists, and of conspiring with others around the World to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

David Rockefeller, Memoirs (Random House, 2002).
 

WrongHanded

Active member


Bilderberg

Posted on 28/05/2013 by Anarcho-Mission

tbankersdees
“The interests behind the Bush Administration, such as the CFR, The Trilateral Commission – founded by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller – and the Bilderberger Group, have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens.”
Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl PhD, former adviser to NATO Secretary General, Manfred Werner, 1998.
In the summer of 1954, more than one hundred international bankers and industrialists, members of the surviving royal families of Europe, ambitious politicians, civil servants, academics and media barons, convened at the Bilderberg Hotel in Oosterbeek, Holland. This was the very first meeting of the Bilderberg Group, which meets every summer in a different European or North American five star location, usually with golfing facilities. The meetings have always been shrouded in secrecy, with every participant, including those from the media, bound by a strict code of silence for extremely pragmatic reasons.
“If the Bilderberg Group is not a conspiracy of some sort, it is conducted in such a way as to give a remarkably good imitation of one.”
C. Gordon Tether, London’s Financial Times, 1975.
Following an argument about censorship, Financial Times journalist, C. Gordon Tether, was fired one year after the publication of the above comment, by his editor, Max Henry ‘Freddy’ Fisher, who was also a member of another Bilderberg tentacle, the Trilateral Commission. According to Aldon Hatch’s authorised biography of one of the Bilderberg founders, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, the Dutch prince said that when a person attends Bilderberg he is:
“…magically stripped of his office… When these representatives of the Western establishment leave a Bilderberg meeting they carry the Group’s consensus with them. The high-powered Bilderberg debates are intended to build unity by resolving differences, and therefore certainly have a significant influence on attendees.”
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The first meeting was organised by co-founder of the Council of Europe and Honorary Secretary General of the European Movement, Josef Retinger, with the executive participation of his friend, Prince Bernard, the former card-carrying Nazi S.S. Officer.
Prince Bernard claimed for more than fifty years that his Nazi Party membership was imposed upon him while living in Hitler’s Berlin during the 1930’s. This claim was never substantiated with compelling evidence, but the Dutch royal family continues to enjoy its privileged position as permanent members of the Bilderberg steering committee.
Other permanent Bilderberg members include the Rothschild, Rockefeller, Morgan, Schiff and Warburg banking dynasties, members of the European aristocracy, and a former US Secretary of State who was accused of war crimes on three continents in Christopher Hitchens’ coruscating book, THE TRIAL OF HENRY KISSINGER (2001).
The Bilderbergers aimed from the beginning to succeed where their ill-fated League of Nations venture had failed: to establish totalitarian World Government, the end of the sovereign nation state, dramatic human population reduction and a single global currency. The keys to achieving these goals were control of the planet’s energy resources, economies, science, media, education, politicians, and of course, the masses.
The theory was, if they could place their people anywhere, they could control everything and everyone, for the alleged benefit of ‘the greater good’, more accurately known as the Darwinian preservation of the so-called favoured races and the phasing out of all inferior classes of Man.
The Rothschild funded United Nations was always intended as a forerunner for World Government, in the aftermath of the failure of the League of Nations. Prince Bernhard reputedly believed that another Great Depression could be avoided if a responsible, intellectual elite could manage geopolitical events from behind the scenes, with their power and influence obscured by the necessary public relations exercise. As Hatton wrote in THE RAPE OF THE CONSTITUTION, the purpose of the meetings was to bring together:
“…an Aristocracy of Purpose between Europe and the United States. The NATO alliance was their crucial base of operation, and subversion, because it afforded them the backdrop for their plans of ‘perpetual war’, or at least the ‘nuclear blackmail’ policy.”
Bilderberg Hall of Fame
It’s all-too-easy to reel off dozens of names of the most successful and powerful individuals who have attended a Bilderberg conference the moment before their careers were propelled into hyper-space, but there are a few which immediately take the eye when scanning the verified guest lists at bilderberg.org.
In 1973 an ambitious, peanut-farming Senator from Georgia announced that he was running for the U.S. Presidency. Two years later, in the wake of Watergate and the end of the Vietnam War, Jimmy Carter (pictured below with Barrack Obama’s political mentor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, founding director of the Trilateral Commission) was invited to his first Bilderberg Conference.
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The following year Carter took residence in the White House, making Brzezinski his National Security adviser and filling key positions in his government with mostly Trilateral Commission members. Indeed, according to Daniel Estulin in THE TRUE STORY OF THE BILDERBERG GROUP, an astounding 291 members of the Carter administration were members of either the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), or the Trilateral Commission. As U.S. News and World Report noted at the time:
“The Trilateralists have taken charge of foreign policy-making in the Carter administration, and already the immense power they wield is sparking some controversy. Active or former members of the Trilateral Commission now head every key agency involved in mapping U.S. strategy for dealing with the rest of the World.”
The outspoken Republican Senator and failed presidential candidate, Barry Goldwater, wrote in his book, WITH NO APOLOGIES, that Jimmy Carter was maneuvered into the White House by David Rockefeller and Brzezinski.
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“…they mobilised the money power of the Wall Street bankers, the intellectual influence of the academic community – which is subject to the wealth of the great tax-free foundations – and the media controllers represented in the membership of the CFR and the Trilateral.”
Also at the 1975 Bilderberg conference was an ambitious British politician who had her eye firmly set on becoming the first female Prime Minister of Great Britain. By all accounts it took her two conferences to win over the predominantly middle-aged men in expensive suits, but Henry Kissinger openly admitted that he was “utterly charmed” the first time he saw her address the conference.
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In May 1979, Mrs Thatcher achieved her ambition and set about waging war against Argentina, the unions, working class communities and regulation of trade. According to several Bilderberg insiders, she was forced out of office by the group when she refused to relinquish British sovereignty and the pound, as was her sworn obligation under English constitutional law, but not before preventing Argentina from selling nuclear power to Mexico and initiating the privatisation of Britain’s public utilities.
In early 1991, failed presidential candidate Bill Clinton was still embroiled in the Whitewater Scandal while Governor of Arkansas, when he was invited to Bilderberg by his lawyer and close friend, Lazard Freres’ Vernon Jordan, a life member of the CFR, Bilderberg and a board member of American Express and Xerox. The following year Clinton became President at the second attempt.
While unsubstantiated rumours still circulate about Clinton’s secret career in the CIA during the late 1960’s, allegedly under the command of George H.W. Bush, America’s most charismatic President since JFK (until Obama) has publicly admitted that his first shot at the Oval Office was impeded by lack of financial muscle. All of that changed after his formal introduction to the Bilderberg Group.
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The much less charismatic Tony Blair attended his first Bilderberg Conference in 1993, well before he was even elected leader of the Labour Party. Gordon Brown was also invited to the 1993 conference, but he politely declined the invitation, having already attended in 1991 with the late Labour leader, John Smith. Brown remains resolutely silent on his Bilderberg attendances almost seventeen years after his first conference, although his refusal to tax the super-rich at the expense of those with the lowest incomes is a clear indication where his true allegiance lies.
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In November 2004, allegations were published by the Observer newspaper claiming that Bilderberg members, British American Tobacco, marked out the fiercely ambitious Blair in 1991, as a politician who would be friendly to the tobacco industry, if elected as Prime Minister. When the information was requested, Mr Blair initially refused to compromise the business interests of his dinner guests at Chequers, until he was forced to do so by his own party’s Freedom of Information Act, which Parliament has since neutered. But not before it was confirmed that BAT did dine with the Prime Minister after he was elected, thereby establishing prima facie evidence of at least one conflict of interests.
Then came the Observer revelation in 2005 of rumours in the City of London, that Blair would, like John Major before him, become an international ambassador for the Carlyle Group, a Bilderberg group of defence contractors that has reaped vast profits from the conflicts sanctioned by Blair’s government, under Elizabeth Windsor’s authorisation. The article, along with another printed by the Mirror, has been removed from the internet archives.
Blair and the Carlyle Group
Blair has been tight-lipped about the appointment ever since, although his role as Middle East Peace Envoy, his sudden conversion to Catholicism after leaving office and his possible election as E.U. President seem all the more sinister because of it. If Blair has reconsidered his position, or declined the Carlyle Group’s offer, the knowledge is not yet in the public domain.
His appointment by J.P Morgan in 2008 on a part-time basis, allowing for his equally lucrative appearances on the international lecture circuit and his role as Professor of Religion at Yale University, does not exclude the possibility that he is also be on the Carlyle Group payroll. Although the obvious links between the two companies may have provided Blair with a more publicly palatable alternative.
The Carlyle Group and J.P. Morgan
Gordon Brown revealed himself as incapable of dominating the political stage very early in his stint as Prime Minister, presiding over several reputation damaging calamities; the false-start general election; the collapse of Northern Rock; the credit-crunch caused by the sub-prime mortgage fraud, which was enabled while he was Chancellor of the Exchequer; and multiple government departments losing the personal information of millions of UK citizens.
Perhaps Brown was seen from the beginning as the man to be blamed for Nu-Labour’s deliberate mistakes, before passing the baton to the next generation of Bilderbergers; George Osbourne and Ed Balls. It is well known that nothing in politics happens by accident. Even before Brown reached the anniversary of his accession to president of the corporation of the United Kingdom, a faction of Nu-Labour backbenchers led by Frank Field threatened a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister. Such is the fear of MP’s losing their seats, directorships and expense accounts.
Some who have attended Bilderberg conferences, including Observer journalist, Will Hutton, have acknowledged the group’s power and influence, despite the mainstream media blackout. This has been somewhat thwarted this century by the rise of the independent media on the internet, where Bilderberg insiders consistently leak valuable information, as well as disinformation and predictable denials about the power and influence of the group.
Significantly, former US Ambassador to West Germany, George McGhee, has publicly admitted that the Treaty of Rome, the catalyst for the formation of the Common Market and the European Union, was developed at Bilderberg meetings, as were the plans for the North American, Asian and African Unions, a single currency and World Government.
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“We shall have World Government whether or not you like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”
James Warburg, statement made before the United States Senate on Feb 7th 1950.
Formed by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller in 1973, the Trilateral Commission is another arm of this international corporate banking cabal, as is the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), which has been synonymous with both U.S. foreign policy and public relations since its formation in 1921. It is also widely known as the American branch of the Rothschild-controlled Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA).
Without a hint of hyperbole, nobody in western politics gets mainstream media attention without having the approval of one of these organisations. Similarly, no international corporation can operate successfully without the cooperation of Bilderberg and its international banking and trade cartels.
All-powerful influence at this level cannot be bought cheaply and has taken centuries to acquire. But it has been acquired in secret without public consent, in much the same way our birthrights have been obscured from us by stealth.
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“…a cesspool of duplicity and lies and double-speak and innuendo and blackmail and bribery. A surreal world of double and triple agents, of changing loyalties, of professional psychotic assassins, brainwashed black-ops agents, soldiers of fortune and mercenaries, whose primary sources of income are the most despicable government-run subversive missions – the kind that can never be exposed.”
Daniel Estulin, The True Story of Bilderberg, 2007.
Daniel Estulin has been investigating Bilderberg for fifteen years. The son of a Russian dissident, Daniel and his family were expelled from the Soviet Union in 1980. After becoming a Canadian citizen, he moved to Madrid fifteen years ago, when he began covering Bilderberg.
Estulin’s grandfather was a KGB counter-intelligence agent during the Cold War, which has provided him with valuable connections within the Secret Intelligence Services. Estulin is confident of the integrity of his sources, who insist that they are only leaking him information because they are patriots, love their countries and are terrified of the plans of the Bilderbergers.
Estulin, who has written the best-selling book, THE TRUE STORY OF THE BILDERBERG GROUP, is certain that the Bilderbergers are, and always have been, in the process of creating the New World Order, as proclaimed by George H.W. Bush in more than one speech during his time in the White House, and echoed by Gordon Brown almost every time he makes a speech to an international audience.
According to Estulin’s book, high on the agenda at the 2005 Bilderberg conference was Iran and the proposed invasion. Henry Kissinger was reported comparing the potential conflict with the Falklands War, which Estulin says was engineered by the Rockefeller-controlled Aspen Institute of Colorado, in order to prevent Argentina from supplying nuclear energy to Mexico and the rest of South and Central America.
Estulin is certain that Bilderberg will stop at nothing to crush any nation that dares to become energy self-sufficient, that Peak Oil and Climate Change are monsters created to enable a global tax on energy, that oil will reach US$200 a barrel and that another Great Depression will ensue, leaving many millions of people homeless, starving, disease-ridden or dead.
Population reduction was also the subject of heated debates at the 2005 conference. As far back as 1974, while Secretary of State Kissinger concluded in a report on the world’s alleged population problem that it should ideally be reduced by 3 billion, meaning the death of 100 million Americans by 2050.
According to the National Centre for Health Statistics, around 2.4 million Americans died during 2005. 1.6 million of those people died from preventable causes. However, the U.S. population increase in 2005 was 1.8 million people, making a net gain of 200,000 people. Nevertheless, this issue remains high on the Bilderberg agenda more than three decades after Kissinger’s report.
American Population Growth and Mortality Rate
Bilderberg are allegedly planning to use a promulgated domestic crisis, such as a food shortage or another ‘terrorist’ attack, possibly nuclear, or even a fake alien invasion, to impose military dictatorship in America, necessarily involving the violent coercion of citizens by U.N. forces and private armies of mercenaries. The entire world, according to Estulin, will then be enslaved by the collectivist global planners, with society as we know it being replaced by a techno-feudal hierarchy of micro-chipped slaves and slave owners.
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“To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial Geo-strategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together.”
Founding director of the Trilateral Commission and Bilderberger, Zbignew Brzezinski, The Grand Chessboard (1997).
Daniel Estulin warned in a 2005 radio interview by Alex Jones that Bilderberg were accelerating their genocidal agenda. David Rockefeller is now in his nineties, with other prominent luminaries such as Lord Rothschild and Henry Kissinger not that far behind him. The Bilderberg cabal seem to be growing impatient for their endgame to be realised, since they are perceptive enough to understand that they cannot sustain their illusion of control without the general compliance of the masses. Without that, every empire has crumbled into dust. Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat the mistakes of the past.
“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents, such as my encounter with Castro, to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions.
Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists, and of conspiring with others around the World to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

David Rockefeller, Memoirs (Random House, 2002).
So this group has been trying to herd cats since 1954? Not working out too well for them, it would seem. There are a lot of accusations leveled in that article, but not much in the way of evidence. Just "theories" tied into true events. Still, my take away is what I already believed; people with too much money are too powerful and therefore too dangerous. Better to redistribute some of that wealth, and reclaim control of the Dollar and the Bank that owns it.
 
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