CrustyCoot
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There may be, but I don't get my info from pro Trump sites. Watched much of those hearings on CSpan.
Now that is some serious irony
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WrongHanded
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See, the reason I ask is because I'd assume that if (as Giuliani apparently claimed) they had hundreds of sworn affidavits, they might want to exhibit those to the people as proof.
On the other hand, if most of them don't include relevant information, or can neither be proven nor disproven as accurate and factual, they might not want to produce them.
The reality is that a sworn affidavit is not strong evidence. It's just someone claiming their statement is true. As it's not often possible to prove such statements as false, there's very little chance of being charged or convicted of perjury.
But at the end of the day, I'm not going to bother second guessing the decisions of all these judges. If you want to do so, that's your choice. They obviously didn't see these various affidavits as compelling evidence, so I see no reason why I should. Especially as I haven't been able to read them.
Right, right, but . . . show us the actual evidence! Trump is, at my count, 0-61, in the courts. Are you saying that every single judge, many appointed by Trump, is corrupt? Or is the more likely explanation that the evidence just isn't there? Given the complete lack of evidence (except the one voter in Pennsylvania who voted for Trump twice), the most parsimonious hypothesis simply is that Trump is a liar who ginned this up out of frustration at losing by 8 million votes.
Anyway, Smartmatic and Dominion are suing Sydney Powell, Giuliani, and likely Trump, so the right will have a chance to present their case in court. Should be interesting . . .
Recent coordinated events by big tech, the left and antifa to silence and bully half of the country leaves me with the belief Trump might be right. I’m not a lawyer so sifting through sworn affidavits for weeks won’t prove or disprove anything. From what I’ve seen for the last 5 years, the political class on the left lies and destroys at a much higher rate than the right. The politicians on the right do tend to fold easily and some are back stabbers. Either way I’ll have to stick with Trump just because the officials who call him an unhinged liar, are a pretty screwed up bunch of twisted brain cells.
Yes, I feel so bullied by ANTIFA. I could hardly get to the polls for fear they would roust me! And they are the ones who tried to kidnap and kill the Michigan governor, right?
Ranb
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Depends upon how to calculate the odds. Do you understand that not all votes are counted on the same day? Absentee balots sent in by military, out of state residents and the elderly can account for a large portion of the total. The mail typically takes a while to get to the people counting the votes. Figure in the GOP encouraging people not to vote by mail/absentee; this makes for an almost certain sway towards anything non-GOP when the votes are counted.
Antifa is just part of the machine. It took 90 days of cities burning before they were half heartedly denounced by the left, only because the polling showed it was hurting the them.
NIGHTLORD40K
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The line between plausible and circumstantial is pretty blurry. People get convicted on "circumstantial" evidence all the time.
WrongHanded
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But circumstancial evidence is not something a legal case should ever be based on. What you say is true, but that doesn't make it right.
NIGHTLORD40K
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Well, Ill be damned, something we can finally agree on.
WrongHanded
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I'm not sure we're all that different really. We just don't discuss the things we agree on. That's boring.Well, Ill be damned, something we can finally agree on.
And not ONE for Trump? Are you fucking serious or just a Nazi/Left troll?
WrongHanded
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Are you suggesting that none of the mail-in ballots were for Trump? I clearly saw his vote totals rise in the highly contested states (the ones that had yet to be called) as the mail-in votes were counted. They just didn't rise nearly as much as Biden's.
Ranb
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I did not say there wasn't a single vote for Trump. How about you show me the actual numbers before you start making reckless accusations?
I guess if stupid insults are all you got, then I can ignore you? Or not?