New York lawmaker seeks to ban bulletproof vests for law-abiding citizens

str8_forward

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the land of the free........??????????? What's YOUR take on this?

Let me try to understand this, while politicians:
1) have armed guards
2) armored vehicles
3) and are living in secure houses/areas,
4) supporting to defund law enforcement
5) while the crime rates in their cities are skyrocketing
6) try to deprive and criminalize "normal", hardworking citizens from obtaining protection while, for example, these are going -after closing their business- to an ATM for dropping off checks/money.

And as a """justification""" claiming that y'all are criminals and try to protect yourself while commuting crimes !

Let that sink in for a moment ! It reminds me of the very old bumper sticker: Don't steal, the government does NOT like competition.
Just because 85% of all politicians are corrupt and do not uphold the oath they have sworn at one time, does not mean YOU/WE are in the same category.


{ The number of shootings in New York City soared 97% from 777 in 2019 to 1,531 in 2020, and murders jumped by 44% from 319 to 462, the New York Police Department found.
The NYPD said it made arrests in about a third – 32% – of the shooting incidents, according to the release. NYPD detectives cleared 54% of homicides that occurred within calendar 2020.

Violent crime rates in other major cities across New York state including Albany, Rochester and Buffalo increased in 2020, according to local reports.}


Jacobson introduces bill to ban sale of bulletproof vests​

Posted Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:24 pm
Assemblymember Jonathan Jacobson (D-Newburgh) is introducing two bills designed to curtail the use of bullet-proof vests by criminals. The first bill would ban the purchase or possession of bullet-proof vests by anyone other than law enforcement officers and those in a very limited number of professions such as a licensed security guard or licensed armored car driver. The second bill would make the wearing of a bullet-proof vest illegal in the commission of any crime. The law now applies only to the wearing of bullet-proof vests during the commission of a violent crime while possessing a firearm.
“Unless you are actively working in law enforcement or in a handful of occupations, there is no legitimate reason to purchase or own a bullet-proof vest. Bullet-proof vests are necessary to protect those whose professions put them at risk of injury. Otherwise, bullet-proof vests are used by those hoping to protect themselves while committing crimes,” said Jacobson.
The first bill will make the unlawful purchase or possession of a bullet-proof vest a class A Misdemeanor for a first offense and a class E felony for any subsequent offenses.
The second bill will ensure that any person convicted of any misdemeanor or felony while wearing a bullet-proof vest will serve a second, consecutive sentence for the possession of a bullet-proof vest on top of the sentence for the underlying crime.
Jacobson said, “I was shocked to learn that anyone can own or buy a bullet-proof vest in New York State. The shooter in Dayton wore a bullet-proof vest. We must ban the purchase and ownership of bullet-proof vests except in very limited circumstances.”
 

Howland937

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That makes zero sense. NYC is hell-bent on protecting the criminal element and making it harder to police them. It's more surprising that they haven't figured out a way to provide vests to anyone contemplating commiting a crime. Maybe a toll free hotline.
Then when they commit crimes and law enforcement intervenes, it'll be police brutality because "he didn't shoot him in the vest".
 

str8_forward

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That makes zero sense. NYC is hell-bent on protecting the criminal element and making it harder to police them. It's more surprising that they haven't figured out a way to provide vests to anyone contemplating commiting a crime. Maybe a toll free hotline.
Then when they commit crimes and law enforcement intervenes, it'll be police brutality because "he didn't shoot him in the vest".
it is unbelievable how many websites are advising people how to prepare, act and protect themselves for riots, yet hardly anything like : don't run, don't fight, don't swear or insult the LEO's.

Feel for the safety of my family, because they are raised well and are kindhearted, i.e. too stupid to pull the trigger when necessary.
Coming from my wife's catholic side.......
 

Phantom 309

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We must ban the purchase and ownership of bullet-proof vests except in very limited circumstances.”
Curious about what kind of "very limited circumstances" they refer to. Maybe a $10,000 tax stamp per plate? Then only those deemed "worthy" can afford one, and the common working class crooks go without.

I'm truly shocked that the cost of a tax stamp hasn't skyrocketed YET. $200 was an exorbitant amount in 1934, now law abiding citizens just figure it into the cost of purchase. The loooong processing times seem to be more of a deterrent for those wanting a suppressor or SBR than the stamp cost.
 

str8_forward

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Curious about what kind of "very limited circumstances" they refer to. Maybe a $10,000 tax stamp per plate? Then only those deemed "worthy" can afford one, and the common working class crooks go without.

I'm truly shocked that the cost of a tax stamp hasn't skyrocketed YET. $200 was an exorbitant amount in 1934, now law abiding citizens just figure it into the cost of purchase. The loooong processing times seem to be more of a deterrent for those wanting a suppressor or SBR than the stamp cost.
oh, you do need a stamp to get a silencer???????????????? And it is also illegal to make your own???????????????????

Golly, am I glad I always follow all the laws (those which make sense and do not infringe on the Constitution)

Just cannot remember reading about taxes, welfare, abortion, prohibition and a lot of other crap.........................................
 

WrongHanded

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I kinda feel like if murder rates are that high, vests should be mandatory.

Okay, I'm not serious about that. But it's ridiculous to ban actual shields that can be worn. I'd prefer vest technology to advance a little more so we could all afford to have them and wear them in comfort (24/7). But NYC is a weird and unique place.
 

George P

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So what about all those Nazi/leftists who buy armored backpacks for their kids who attend public schools or walk on public streets? Going to outlaw those too?
 

George P

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