The Last Outlaw
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Greene is not dangerous, just crazy. Those you mentioned are both.
My letter to the Republican Party
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The Last Outlaw
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I am neither Democrat or Republican, for the record. You said my opinion needs to go, then talked about freedom of speech. That sounds like what the Democrats have been doing. I say Greene needs to go because she is one of the many reasons Republicans are losing ground. Seems like you are the one speaking like a Democrat.
wiscoaster
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So, you felt some injustice when your opinion was muzzled, but it's OK to muzzle someone else because of their opinion?
The Last Outlaw
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She said these things on Facebook, I'm not saying she should be censored on there, just saying that she is a terrible representative of your party, and, if y'all actually want a shot at gaining any ground, she should go.
I didn't feel any injustice, you didn't "muzzle" me. Even if you did, I wouldn't care, this is just some anonymous message board.
wiscoaster
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Well, my opinion is that the Romneys, Cheneys and their Republican establishment types should go. The Republican Party is no longer their party, and if they want to keep it, I and my like-minded conservative populists are not going to support it, and it's not going to survive as a political party.
The Last Outlaw
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I wish you luck, but backing someone who spouts crazy conspiracy theories may not be the way to go.
I think we forget Representative Greene was elected by a majority of the voters in her area. To oust her from congress and her seat would be telling her voters and supporters they chose wrongly. How does this play out for them? Do their vote have any meaning if you won't recognize their congressional representative?
The Last Outlaw
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Hard to lose when your competitor drops out after campaigning for 31 days......
Still, the people voted.
Howland937
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The Republican party may not be the party of Romney and Cheney, the Bush family, McConnell, Graham, etc...
Or it could be the "establishment" types are all that's keeping it from tearing at the seams because of the direction some people are trying to pull. For certain, if the Republican party is now the party of QAnon and Proud Boys, it'll meet it's demise sooner than later. Maybe THOSE people should go get their own party and quit trying to screw up the only thing that comes remotely close to keeping the radical left at bay.
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wiscoaster
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Except that some of the establishment RINOs have been siding with the left, so they've been enabling them, not keeping them at bay.
Other than that I concur with your analysis that tearing the Republican Party apart dooms it. There's a zero track record of success for third parties in this country. I think most Trumpian conservatives recognize that and would much prefer to get the Republican Party to be more inclusive of them and accepting of their political philosophies, to work with them and not against them.
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Howland937
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Very true, but I've yet to hear of anyone except Ted Cruz agree with anything the likes of AOC has said. Granted it was meaningless, but the symbolism didn't go unnoticed.
I've never sided with the left on much of anything, but I'm gonna ride with them on this stimulus thing. They're giving money away hand over fist, so if me, my kid and my future grandkids are gonna be stuck paying for it....well, I may as well get a "free" Combat Commander out of it.
The far right wing just doesn't have the numbers. McConnell knows this, which is why he is so opposed to Greene. If conservatives (broadly defined) hope to keep a strong presence in national elections, they have to offer something. So far, and maybe this is just during the last presidency, the far right was closely identified with some pretty unpleasant people (e.g. Charlottesville, the Capitol riots, QAnon, etc.) Unless the conservatives can successfully distance themselves from that crowd, they will be easy targets for Democrats.
If you look at successful Republicans on the national stage over the last 50 years, they were/are coalition builders, not fire-starters. The fact is, the majority of Americans don't want a revolution - they want decent jobs, fair treatment by corporations and government (including police), political stability, educational opportunities for their children, health care, and reasonably safe streets. The most visible right-wing Republicans in the national stage just haven't been offering this recently.
wiscoaster
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Well, if you call the estimated nearly 80 million that voted for Trump "right wing" then I think that they probably do.
wiscoaster
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Well, the Demos sure haven't.
The Last Outlaw
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I have a strong suspicion that there is a massive amount of people, on both sides, that just aren't as vocal as the extremes we see all the time. The extremists make the news but the moderates are most probably the majority.
Well, the Conservatives lost the House, the Senate, and the White House, all recently under the most extreme version of a right wing candidate/president since, I guess, Wallace.
And I don't call 74 million the same as 80 million, unless you round up to the nearest 10 million. Perhaps you are confusing that number with Biden's (81 million)?
wiscoaster
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No, I'm including the Trump votes that were fraudulently flipped to Biden.
Oh, you mean, none? as in zero? (according to the Trump's Justice Department and Trump's Federal Election Commission, several Republican Secretaries of State, and 60 courts federal and state, including SCOTUS)
Because if so, you are rounding up to the nearest 10 million.
wiscoaster
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It's not over yet. There are at least five cases pending conference by SCOTUS.