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roscoe

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No, just a couple. Off the top of your head. If you are typical of most anti Trump people, my sisters included, you don't even know why you dislike him, but CNN & MSNBC told you to dislike him. He brought jobs back to this country, started building the wall, after renegotiating trade treaties and scrapping NAFTA, Mexico was paying for it. Cut regulations to make us energy independent, strengthened our military, started opening diplomatic relations with N.Korea, made NATO nations start paying their fair share. Took unemployment to all time historic low levels across the board.And now the fucking senile retard Biden will undo all of it. Do you think the few accomplishents I listed are bad? Not saying Trump may not have exaggerated,but he did more for Americans in 4 years than either party has done in the last 40. Ball is in your court, give me a few examples of his lies. Not tiny details, but outright lies. What did he say he would do that he didn't, or woudn't do that he did?

Summary of campaign promises kept and broken:
 

CrustyCoot

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A sample of some egregious ones:

1. The lie that muslims celebrated 9-11. He repeated his comments during an interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week”: “I know it might be not politically correct for you to talk about it, but there were people cheering as that building came down, as those buildings came down. And that tells you something. It was well covered at the time, George. Now, I know they don’t like to talk about it, but it was well covered at the time. There were people over in New Jersey that were watching it, a heavy Arab population, that were cheering as the buildings came down. Not good.”

2. Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election. This claim is false, according to the unanimous assessment of the U.S. intelligence community and the former special counsel Robert Mueller, who spent two years investigating Russia's election interference effort.

3. Post-natal executions. Rally April 27, 2019. Addressing a rally in Green Bay, he told the crowd that with late-term abortion “the mother meets with the doctor. They take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully. And then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby”.

4. A year into his presidency, Trump told a West Palm Beach crowd: “You know, one of the things that people don’t understand — we have signed more legislation than anybody. We broke the record of Harry Truman.” No, according to govtracks.us, the President actually passed the least amount of legislation in the first year of anyone elected to the office since World War II. Trump signed off on 96 laws in the period, while Truman racked up 126 in his first 100 days alone. John F Kennedy takes the record at the one-year mark with 684 signed bills.

5. Obama was responsible for family separations at the border. In an Telemundo in June 2018, he claimed: “When I became president, President Obama had a separation policy. I didn’t have it. He had it. I brought the families together. I’m the one that put them together.” There was no specific law under the Democratic administration of Barack Obama to separate children from their parents. It did occur occasionally when the parents were charged with a crime and placed in custody, due to a policy of not imprisoning children. However, illegal immigrants were rarely prosecuted and instead held in family detention centres under Obama, while under Trump the Homeland Security Department now refers all illegal border crossings for prosecution and separation.

6 Following his win in the 2016 presidential election, Trump tweeted: “In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.” Obviously not true. But he loves the 'illegal vote' as a way to defend his losses.

7. And a silly, but typical casual mistruth. "People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once. They end up using more water. So, EPA is looking at that very strongly, at my suggestion," Trump said in December, referring to the Environmental Protection Agency. Water preservation restrictions have been on the books since the 1990s dictating how much water is used by toilets, but there’s no evidence that low-flow toilets are creating 10-plus flush situations for anyone. While Trump says he's ordered a review, the review was mandated by a 2018 law, Vox reported.

Campaign promises unfulfilled to follow . . .
Most of those I would consider to be bombast, exaggeration, to be sure. One I MUST disagree with you on is your first point, living only 45 minutes from Dearbornistan, and many of those miserable bastards did indeed cheer and celebrate.
 

roscoe

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Most of those I would consider to be bombast, exaggeration, to be sure. One I MUST disagree with you on is your first point, living only 45 minutes from Dearbornistan, and many of those miserable bastards did indeed cheer and celebrate.
Can you document that it did truly happen, or is this just another rumor? I have never seen a photo, a video, audio - nothing. Just people claiming, based on second-hand evidence.
 

roscoe

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Most of those I would consider to be bombast, exaggeration, to be sure. One I MUST disagree with you on is your first point, living only 45 minutes from Dearbornistan, and many of those miserable bastards did indeed cheer and celebrate.
You may call them bombast. My mother would have grounded me for any of those lies.
 
Can you document that it did truly happen, or is this just another rumor? I have never seen a photo, a video, audio - nothing. Just people claiming, based on second-hand evidence.
I saw video of that exact thing a day or two after the attack. It was on one of the networks, I didnt have cable.
 

roscoe

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Yes, that is the link. Thanks, bummer7.

Wow. Did you read it? It was literally second hand reports of second hand reports for each one! There was not one single piece of actual hard evidence, or even a sworn testimony. Just several repetitions of 'I heard someone say." And if it was even true, and a handful did (for which, again, no hard evidence), that is NOT what was represented. Trump said, "thousands". A lie, plain and simple.

And Trump represented that these people as a group were a threat, because of this. And that was a lie, literally designed to take advantage of peoples' prejudices (not his only time, by a country mile). Pretty contemptible.
 

Selena

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Wow - some real 'head in the sand' thinking here. The fact is, even if we ignore science of the infection rate, the fact is, more people have died in the US from COVID than died in all of WW2. That is a death rate greater than any other developed nation! And it happened on Trump's watch. He discouraged testing, mask-wearing, and social distancing, so I regard him as partially responsible for the additional 150,000 dead that could have been avoided had we had good leadership. Someone who prioritized the American people over his own ego.

Wow... Aren't you just precious.

Let me see, according to World Atlas 70 million died in WWII
According to WorldoMeters the population of the US is 332,222,583

That figures out to about a 21% fatality rate or the death of 1 in 5 citizens.

As my dear old uncle would say - boy, that statement could be arrested for vagrancy as it has no visible means of support.
 

roscoe

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Wow... Aren't you just precious.

Let me see, according to World Atlas 70 million died in WWII
According to WorldoMeters the population of the US is 332,222,583

That figures out to about a 21% fatality rate or the death of 1 in 5 citizens.

As my dear old uncle would say - boy, that statement could be arrested for vagrancy as it has no visible means of support.

Um - I was talking about Americans. More Americans have died of COVID than Americans died in WW2.

You couldn't figure that out? Reread my post.
 
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Selena

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Um - I was talking about Americans. More Americans have died of COVID than Americans died in WW2.

You couldn't figure that out? Reread my post.
"the fact is, more people have died in the US from COVID than died in all of WW2. "

All of WW2 would include the allies, axis and civilians. It would appear you are a literary vagrant as well. Bless your heart.
 

roscoe

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"the fact is, more people have died in the US from COVID than died in all of WW2. "

All of WW2 would include the allies, axis and civilians. It would appear you are a literary vagrant as well. Bless your heart.

My god, read the sentence in context. 'All' refers to time, not geography, because all the COVID deaths have happened within a single year.

You notice no one else made this mistake but you?
 
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