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roscoe

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On the news today: Biden's first approval poll rating: 48%. Trump's was 52%. O'bama's was 67%.

Not off to a very great start. But no surprise to us Trumpers.

A good leader would largely ignore spot polls and lead, not follow.

How about some articles about Biden's truth telling?

https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/...y-times-joe-bidens-been-caught-in-major-lies/

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...s-biggest-lies-from-his-cnn-town-hall-n942822

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/499065-lies-damned-lies-and-the-truth-about-joe-biden



https://www.westernjournal.com/deva...n-caught-repeatedly-lying-5-minutes-straight/


There are probably plenty more articles about Biden's lying. The question I think all of us should ask is do we look at the information with a critical eye? Or do we just accept the reporter's or writer's article as factual?

I don't know about you but I learned I have to read and distill the news with a bit of salt. I also consider the source and if the writer is biased or opinionated to the point where they <unintentionally>inject their slant into their words.

Does Trump exaggerate or stretch the truth? No doubt in my mind Trump at times exaggerate so badly, it can be thought of as outright lies or falsehoods. On the other hand, is Biden innocent in not lying to the people? Nope. He has his faults too.

No question politicians lie (or make promises they know they can't keep). It is more a question of degree. Trump is several orders of magnitude deeper into the falsehoods than any president in history. He was positively compulsive about it. Into the tens of thousands - for a one-term president! Amazing!
 

CrustyCoot

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You want me to document Trump's unprecedented volume of lies? Easily done!







Politifact, WAPO, Forbes, no friend to Trump and knoewn to be slanted. Believe what you will, maybe you can use your stimulus money to learn to speak Chinese.
 

CrustyCoot

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A good leader would largely ignore spot polls and lead, not follow.



No question politicians lie (or make promises they know they can't keep). It is more a question of degree. Trump is several orders of magnitude deeper into the falsehoods than any president in history. He was positively compulsive about it. Into the tens of thousands - for a one-term president! Amazing!
The major promises he made to the American people, he kept.
 

roscoe

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So, if he gives us 25,000 lies, but attempts to keep some of his campaign promises, that is OK? No thanks - my mother raised me better than that.

But what were his kept promises, anyway?
 

roscoe

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Politifact, WAPO, Forbes, no friend to Trump and knoewn to be slanted. Believe what you will, maybe you can use your stimulus money to learn to speak Chinese.

Right - so offer your direct refutation, don't just go ad hominem on the sources.
 

CrustyCoot

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A good leader would largely ignore spot polls and lead, not follow.



No question politicians lie (or make promises they know they can't keep). It is more a question of degree. Trump is several orders of magnitude deeper into the falsehoods than any president in history. He was positively compulsive about it. Into the tens of thousands - for a one-term president! Amazing!
Such as?
 

roscoe

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Really??? (I thought I just did this.)








 
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theotherwaldo

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Yeah, we know.
If Biden says something then it's a fact, no matter how absurd it may be.
If Trump says something then it's a lie, even if it's a matter of the opinion of the reporter.

Now go back to purging Trump supporters from the National Guard... .
 

CrustyCoot

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Really??? (I thought I just did this.)








I don't want some regurgitated, BS from a BS source. Give me specifics, in your own words, please.
 

str8_forward

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They are all thieves and liars. Why would anyone trust anything they say?
bidet's climate advisor Vagina McCarthy said Wednesday that the administration is "not asking for sacrifice" with its executive order to shut down construction of the Keystone XL pipeline.

According to the Keystone XL website, the project, initially proposed more than a decade ago, would have sustained about 11,000 U.S. jobs in 2021 – including 8,000 union jobs – and generated $1.6 billion in gross wages.

"The most exciting thing about this is we're not asking for sacrifice here," McCarthy said during a Wednesday interview on NBC's "TODAY Show." "The president fully understands that people are suffering now. So this all about recovering from the COVID crisis. This all about building good, clean jobs, jobs where you can get access to jobs to good pay and unions."...................

....................... to get us to clean electricity and net-zero in 2050. This is about promises he made that he's gonna keep."

McCarthy called climate change "one of the biggest threats of our lifetime,
....."The most exciting thing about this is we're not asking for sacrifice here,"


let this statement sink in or stand in front of these 11.000 sacrifices and tell them how easy the future under bidet will be...............and to all the lefties who would be foolish enough to justify this, I have three words for you : Golf Foxtrot Yankee
 

The Last Outlaw

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bidet's climate advisor Vagina McCarthy said Wednesday that the administration is "not asking for sacrifice" with its executive order to shut down construction of the Keystone XL pipeline.

According to the Keystone XL website, the project, initially proposed more than a decade ago, would have sustained about 11,000 U.S. jobs in 2021 – including 8,000 union jobs – and generated $1.6 billion in gross wages.

"The most exciting thing about this is we're not asking for sacrifice here," McCarthy said during a Wednesday interview on NBC's "TODAY Show." "The president fully understands that people are suffering now. So this all about recovering from the COVID crisis. This all about building good, clean jobs, jobs where you can get access to jobs to good pay and unions."...................

....................... to get us to clean electricity and net-zero in 2050. This is about promises he made that he's gonna keep."

McCarthy called climate change "one of the biggest threats of our lifetime,
....."The most exciting thing about this is we're not asking for sacrifice here,"

let this statement sink in or stand in front of these 11.000 sacrifices and tell them how easy the future under bidet will be...............and to all the lefties who would be foolish enough to justify this, I have three words for you : Golf Foxtrot Yankee
Why did you quote me in that post?
 

roscoe

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I don't want some regurgitated, BS from a BS source. Give me specifics, in your own words, please.

You mean you want me to list 25,000 direct quotes? Nah, I would say that the burden of proof lies with you, and you should read the links before you just decide to ignore reality.
 

CrustyCoot

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No, just a couple. Off the top of your head. If you are typical of most anti Trump people, my sisters included, you don't even know why you dislike him, but CNN & MSNBC told you to dislike him. He brought jobs back to this country, started building the wall, after renegotiating trade treaties and scrapping NAFTA, Mexico was paying for it. Cut regulations to make us energy independent, strengthened our military, started opening diplomatic relations with N.Korea, made NATO nations start paying their fair share. Took unemployment to all time historic low levels across the board.And now the fucking senile retard Biden will undo all of it. Do you think the few accomplishents I listed are bad? Not saying Trump may not have exaggerated,but he did more for Americans in 4 years than either party has done in the last 40. Ball is in your court, give me a few examples of his lies. Not tiny details, but outright lies. What did he say he would do that he didn't, or woudn't do that he did?
 

str8_forward

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No, just a couple. Off the top of your head. If you are typical of most anti Trump people, my sisters included, you don't even know why you dislike him, but CNN & MSNBC told you to dislike him. He brought jobs back to this country, started building the wall, after renegotiating trade treaties and scrapping NAFTA, Mexico was paying for it. Cut regulations to make us energy independent, strengthened our military, started opening diplomatic relations with N.Korea, made NATO nations start paying their fair share. Took unemployment to all time historic low levels across the board.And now the fucking senile retard Biden will undo all of it. Do you think the few accomplishents I listed are bad? Not saying Trump may not have exaggerated,but he did more for Americans in 4 years than either party has done in the last 40. Ball is in your court, give me a few examples of his lies. Not tiny details, but outright lies. What did he say he would do that he didn't, or woudn't do that he did?
regarding to the f@cking senile retard biden, before they permanently banned from fb (3 weeks ago) and tw (9 month ago), I coined the phrase fre{e}tard and it went through the censorship for the longest time, same as azzholes.

And here comes the new normal, get used to it until camelhair put a pillow over the fretard's head:
 

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roscoe

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No, just a couple. Off the top of your head. If you are typical of most anti Trump people, my sisters included, you don't even know why you dislike him, but CNN & MSNBC told you to dislike him. He brought jobs back to this country, started building the wall, after renegotiating trade treaties and scrapping NAFTA, Mexico was paying for it. Cut regulations to make us energy independent, strengthened our military, started opening diplomatic relations with N.Korea, made NATO nations start paying their fair share. Took unemployment to all time historic low levels across the board.And now the fucking senile retard Biden will undo all of it. Do you think the few accomplishents I listed are bad? Not saying Trump may not have exaggerated,but he did more for Americans in 4 years than either party has done in the last 40. Ball is in your court, give me a few examples of his lies. Not tiny details, but outright lies. What did he say he would do that he didn't, or woudn't do that he did?

A sample of some egregious ones:

1. The lie that muslims celebrated 9-11. He repeated his comments during an interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week”: “I know it might be not politically correct for you to talk about it, but there were people cheering as that building came down, as those buildings came down. And that tells you something. It was well covered at the time, George. Now, I know they don’t like to talk about it, but it was well covered at the time. There were people over in New Jersey that were watching it, a heavy Arab population, that were cheering as the buildings came down. Not good.”

2. Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election. This claim is false, according to the unanimous assessment of the U.S. intelligence community and the former special counsel Robert Mueller, who spent two years investigating Russia's election interference effort.

3. Post-natal executions. Rally April 27, 2019. Addressing a rally in Green Bay, he told the crowd that with late-term abortion “the mother meets with the doctor. They take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully. And then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby”.

4. A year into his presidency, Trump told a West Palm Beach crowd: “You know, one of the things that people don’t understand — we have signed more legislation than anybody. We broke the record of Harry Truman.” No, according to govtracks.us, the President actually passed the least amount of legislation in the first year of anyone elected to the office since World War II. Trump signed off on 96 laws in the period, while Truman racked up 126 in his first 100 days alone. John F Kennedy takes the record at the one-year mark with 684 signed bills.

5. Obama was responsible for family separations at the border. In an Telemundo in June 2018, he claimed: “When I became president, President Obama had a separation policy. I didn’t have it. He had it. I brought the families together. I’m the one that put them together.” There was no specific law under the Democratic administration of Barack Obama to separate children from their parents. It did occur occasionally when the parents were charged with a crime and placed in custody, due to a policy of not imprisoning children. However, illegal immigrants were rarely prosecuted and instead held in family detention centres under Obama, while under Trump the Homeland Security Department now refers all illegal border crossings for prosecution and separation.

6 Following his win in the 2016 presidential election, Trump tweeted: “In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.” Obviously not true. But he loves the 'illegal vote' as a way to defend his losses.

7. And a silly, but typical casual mistruth. "People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once. They end up using more water. So, EPA is looking at that very strongly, at my suggestion," Trump said in December, referring to the Environmental Protection Agency. Water preservation restrictions have been on the books since the 1990s dictating how much water is used by toilets, but there’s no evidence that low-flow toilets are creating 10-plus flush situations for anyone. While Trump says he's ordered a review, the review was mandated by a 2018 law, Vox reported.

Campaign promises unfulfilled to follow . . .
 
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