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Get used to the new slogan for joe's short appearance as president (until camel-hair pushes him down a flight of stairs):
NOTHING WE CAN DO

Biden says 'nothing we can do' to change pandemic 'trajectory' in coming months

Biden addressed his administration’s response efforts during a press briefing on two executive orders meant to provide food assistance to low-income families and protect workers’ rights during the pandemic.

www.foxnews.com

This is the sob story we will be reading/hearing, mostly followed by:

it's TRUMP's fault.

So easy to predict, just wanted to let you know...................

 

[CrustyCoot]

Biden is a fkng retard. Still don't believe there are an additional 80 million retards in the US. While I will bust my ass to preserve everything I have worked so hard for over the years, I hope the 80 million get every damn thing they have coming to them via their vote. And before I get a shitpot full of responses from those with their panties in a knot, only the guilty need to feel offended.

 

[roscoe]

Yeah, that's me.

Biden is just being honest, something Trump struggled with. He is telling us an unpleasant truth - that the infections will continue. That is the way biology works, unfortunately. I appreciate his refreshing honesty, as opposed to ignoring the problem or lying about it.

And it is largely Trump's fault that our infection rate is so much worse than any other country's. Other places with good leadership have done much better:

COVID-19 and Excess All-Cause Mortality in the US and 18 Comparison Countries

This Viewpoint compares the COVID-19 per capita overall and excess mortality rates in the US vs that of 18 OECD countries and the timing of any increases in excess mortality between February and September 2020.

jamanetwork.com

 

[theotherwaldo]

-The truth is in the small print.
"The number of confirmed cases is lower than the number of actual cases; the main reason for that is limited testing."
The U. S. tested, most of the rest of the world did not.
I guess that that is Trump's fault... .

 

[wiscoaster]

Like I posted in another thread, it's probably better Biden is President now because he's going to be blamed for all the bad stuff coming down the pike that's going to happen regardless.

 

[CrustyCoot]

Covid is very deadly. Nobody is dying from flu or pneumonia. And it has been acknowledge that the tests are flawed. The scientist that developed that test many years ago has said it was never meant to detect viruses. Check for yourself.

 

[roscoe]

Wow - some real 'head in the sand' thinking here. The fact is, even if we ignore science of the infection rate, the fact is, more people have died in the US from COVID than died in all of WW2. That is a death rate greater than any other developed nation! And it happened on Trump's watch. He discouraged testing, mask-wearing, and social distancing, so I regard him as partially responsible for the additional 150,000 dead that could have been avoided had we had good leadership. Someone who prioritized the American people over his own ego.

 

[roscoe]

Covid is very deadly. Nobody is dying from flu or pneumonia. And it has been acknowledge that the tests are flawed. The scientist that developed that test many years ago has said it was never meant to detect viruses. Check for yourself.

But, CrustyCoot - FYI - there are many tests, not just one. My wife works on one of the tests teams for a large BioTech company, and the test was just recently developed, so what 'some scientist' said about a previous test is irrelevant. No legitimate scientist challenges the US infection rate.

 

[Phantom 309]

 

[roscoe]

Your logic is flawed. He is just acknowledging that, whatever the plan, things will get worse before they get better. Honest leaders do that.

Winston Churchill famously did the same thing after Czechoslovakia fell:

"I will begin by saying what everybody would like to ignore or forget... we have sustained a total and unmitigated defeat... All is over. Silent, mournful, abandoned, broken, Czechoslovakia recedes into the darkness... We are in the presence of a disaster of the first magnitude which has befallen Great Britain and France. Do not let us blind ourselves to that... Do not suppose that this is the end. This is only the beginning of the reckoning."

 

[roscoe]

And, honestly, pulling quotes out of context is cheap at best, and intellectually dishonest at worst.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Yeah, that's me.

Biden is just being honest, something Trump struggled with. He is telling us an unpleasant truth - that the infections will continue. That is the way biology works, unfortunately. I appreciate his refreshing honesty, as opposed to ignoring the problem or lying about it.

And it is largely Trump's fault that our infection rate is so much worse than any other country's. Other places with good leadership have done much better:

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COVID-19 and Excess All-Cause Mortality in the US and 18 Comparison Countries

This Viewpoint compares the COVID-19 per capita overall and excess mortality rates in the US vs that of 18 OECD countries and the timing of any increases in excess mortality between February and September 2020.

jamanetwork.com

Uhh, you actually think China and Russia are reporting accurate numbers?

Hmm, judging by his foreign policy appointments so far, it looks like Joes new slogan should be, "Make Iran Rich Again!"

 

[Phantom 309]

First off, what exactly was taken out of context? The plan includes food stamps and job protections..... helluva plan, Joe.

Secondly, I do believe this is the second time this week that you've thrown out the accusation of intellectual dishonestly. I guess a few of us need to get in line for the reeducation camp, eh?

And lastly, did you really use the term "honest leader" to describe Joe Biden? I find that laughable. Or did I take that out of context too?

 

[roscoe]

First off, what exactly was taken out of context? The plan includes food stamps and job protections..... helluva plan, Joe.

Secondly, I do believe this is the second time this week that you've thrown out the accusation of intellectual dishonestly. I guess a few of us need to get in line for the reeducation camp, eh?

And lastly, did you really use the term "honest leader" to describe Joe Biden? I find that laughable. Or did I take that out of context too?

Well, he is a politician, so honest is a relative term. However, relative to Trump, who seemed eager to set new records for dishonesty, Biden is as pure as the driven snow.

 

[roscoe]

First off, what exactly was taken out of context? The plan includes food stamps and job protections..... helluva plan, Joe.

Secondly, I do believe this is the second time this week that you've thrown out the accusation of intellectual dishonestly. I guess a few of us need to get in line for the reeducation camp, eh?

And lastly, did you really use the term "honest leader" to describe Joe Biden? I find that laughable. Or did I take that out of context too?

And, yes, I think pulling quotes out of context is dishonest. I know the news outlets are prone to it, but that does not make it correct. If you want to make a point, present the full argument, don't just screen-grab a quote. You think Biden is mismanaging the pandemic? OK, present your evidence. You are opposed to federal assistance during the pandemic - OK, that's fine, but make your argument.

But all you did was put two screenshots together, from two very separate contexts, from which we were supposed to infer that Biden was being dishonest, when the contrary was true - he was giving us the hard truth.

BTW - here is a link to the text of full comments from which your quote was taken:

Remarks by President Biden on the American Rescue Plan and Signing of Executive Orders | The White House

State Dining Room 3:04 P.M. EST THE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon, folks. Vice President Harris and I just received a briefing from our economic team, and we remain in a once-in-a-century public health crisis that’s led to the most unequal job and economic crisis in modern history. And the crisis...

www.whitehouse.gov

Your re-education camp comment was just a cheap line, so I will leave it at that.

 

[CrustyCoot]

Now who has their head in the sand? Enjoy the kool-Ade

Wow - some real 'head in the sand' thinking here. The fact is, even if we ignore science of the infection rate, the fact is, more people have died in the US from COVID than died in all of WW2. That is a death rate greater than any other developed nation! And it happened on Trump's watch. He discouraged testing, mask-wearing, and social distancing, so I regard him as partially responsible for the additional 150,000 dead that could have been avoided had we had good leadership. Someone who prioritized the American people over his own ego.

 

[CrustyCoot]

But, CrustyCoot - FYI - there are many tests, not just one. My wife works on one of the tests teams for a large BioTech company, and the test was just recently developed, so what 'some scientist' said about a previous test is irrelevant. No legitimate scientist challenges the US infection rate.

With a 99.5% recovery rate.

 

[CrustyCoot]

Well, he is a politician, so honest is a relative term. However, relative to Trump, who seemed eager to set new records for dishonesty, Biden is as pure as the driven snow.

Brother, I want a bag of what you've been smokin'.

 

[roscoe]

Brother, I want a bag of what you've been smokin'.

You want me to document Trump's unprecedented volume of lies? Easily done!

| PolitiFact

PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter.

www.politifact.com

Veracity of statements by Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

‘Tsunami of untruths’: Trump has made 20,000 false or misleading claims – report

Washington Post’s Fact Checker says Trump hit the milestone on 9 July, a day on which he delivered 62 such claims

www.theguardian.com

Trump Is Lying More Than Ever: Just Look At The Data

Trump has averaged 23.8 lies per day since the first case of COVID-19 was reported in the US.

www.forbes.com

Donald Trump Has Made More Than 12,000 False or Misleading Claims Since Becoming President: WaPo

The Washington Post’s “Fact Checker’s database” estimates that the president has lied about the border wall alone more than 190 times.

www.thedailybeast.com

Every false claim Donald Trump has made as president

U.S. President Donald Trump has proven uniquely willing to lie, exaggerate and mislead. Here is the Star's list of all his false claims.

projects.thestar.com

Why do fact-checkers find more false statements from Trump than Biden?

When the refs call more penalties on one team than the other, are they biased? Or is that team simply committing way...

www.dispatch.com

 

[bummer7]

How about some articles about Biden's truth telling?

https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/...y-times-joe-bidens-been-caught-in-major-lies/

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...s-biggest-lies-from-his-cnn-town-hall-n942822

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/499065-lies-damned-lies-and-the-truth-about-joe-biden

Here are the 33 Lies Joe Biden Told America During First Debate - NEWS HOUR FIRST

But when you're fighting many decades of lies told so people can keep their position (of power), punching back becomes necessary.

newshourfirst.com

2 truths and 31 lies Joe Biden has told about his work in the Civil Rights Movement

Since the early 1970s, Joe Biden has been a serial liar when it comes to his "work" in the Civil Rights Movement. It's the equivalent of stolen valor and is fundamentally disqualifying.

shaunking.substack.com

https://www.westernjournal.com/deva...n-caught-repeatedly-lying-5-minutes-straight/

Devastating 30-Year-Old Video Shows Biden Being Caught Repeatedly Lying for 5 Minutes Straight

Former Vice President Joe Biden is facing many issues in his campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination -- and now he's looking at another one.

www.westernjournal.com

There are probably plenty more articles about Biden's lying. The question I think all of us should ask is do we look at the information with a critical eye? Or do we just accept the reporter's or writer's article as factual?

I don't know about you but I learned I have to read and distill the news with a bit of salt. I also consider the source and if the writer is biased or opinionated to the point where they <unintentionally>inject their slant into their words.

Does Trump exaggerate or stretch the truth? No doubt in my mind Trump at times exaggerate so badly, it can be thought of as outright lies or falsehoods. On the other hand, is Biden innocent in not lying to the people? Nope. He has his faults too.