I refuse to wear a mask

v35

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I went to the store yesterday and saw a bunch of people wearing coats and hats. I had a good laugh at those sheep because I did my own research. Only 1500 people die of hypothermia in the US every year. That’s only 0.0005% of the population. That means those people are living in fear of something that 99.995 of the population survives. And to make matters worse, a whole bunch of those people who died from hypothermia were wearing hats and coats anyway and they still died.

Wake up people, hats and coats don’t work.

Wearing a hat or coat is your decision. I do not impose my will upon others.

Wearing a diaper over my face is my decision. Do not impose your will upon me.
 

Elkins45

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Wearing a hat or coat is your decision. I do not impose my will upon others.

Wearing a diaper over my face is my decision. Do not impose your will upon me.

You not wearing a coat can’t give me a cold. You not wearing a mask can give me Covid.

Do you oppose laws requiring drivers to have liability insurance? How do you feel about laws requiring people to cover their genitals in public?
 

Elkins45

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Do you?
How is that relevant to what I posted?
You have to be kidding? How is it relevant? It’s relevant because mask mandates are just a form of regulation requiring body coverings. We have had such regulations for centuries. People running around bragging about not wearing a mask are no different than people running around bragging about not wearing pants.
 

Fine Figure of a Man

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People running around bragging about not wearing a mask are no different than people running around bragging about not wearing pants.
I have never heard of anyone doing either one of those things. As I said before, I support your right to wear a mask.

Can you think of any possible future mandates you might oppose? How about double masks? Triple?
 

wiscoaster

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I went to a super-spreader event (a gun show) a little over three weeks ago. A couple thousand people crammed together indoors. Roughly two-thirds were not wearing masks. There's no possible way that the COVID-19 virus was not floating around in the air there. I have not gotten sick and there haven't been any local news reports of a subsequent case count spike.

I supported masks early on in this pandemic and was actually the first to wear one in public. But I do not support government mandates indefinitely extended by unconstitutional executive emergency declarations. I do think we're reaching a point in this pandemic where enough people have been exposed and either gotten sick or have developed immunity and where health care systems are prepared to deal with the sick ones, and vaccines are available, thereby making masks superfluous for most healthy people.

At this point I think masks should be a personal decision, not a regulation.
 
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Elkins45

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I have never heard of anyone doing either one of those things. As I said before, I support your right to wear a mask.

Can you think of any possible future mandates you might oppose? How about double masks? Triple?
I think I’ll oppose the ones that don’t seem to have a good reason to exist. It’s something I will consider on an individual basis. Two masks? Sure, why not?
 

Fine Figure of a Man

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Sure. Googles seem like a good idea. Can you point me to anywhere this has been mandated?
I didn't say it was mandated. Do you do anything without first being told to? Why not lead by example? You can contract COVID through your eyes, if you do you put the rest of us at risk. Is that not your logic? Don't you care enough about others to simply wear googles and a few masks, maybe gloves........

I think I’ll oppose the ones that don’t seem to have a good reason to exist.
Is it OK if everyone does this or is that a right reserved just for you.
 

Elkins45

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I didn't say it was mandated. Do you do anything without first being told to? Why not lead by example? You can contract COVID through your eyes, if you do you put the rest of us at risk. Is that not your logic? Don't you care enough about others to simply wear googles and a few masks, maybe gloves........


Is it OK if everyone does this or is that a right reserved just for you.
You're having a lot of fun building straw men and being absurd, aren't you? Fine, I'll play that game too. Why should their be laws against having sex with children? If a 6 year old says it's OK then who are you to intrude? And how is it any of society's business if I want to have my weiner hanging out when I go to Walmart?

Asking people to wear a piece of cloth over their face isn't oppression. If you think so then you're never encountered real oppression.
 

Elkins45

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My favorite meme of the whole pandemic, because it so completely sums up the attitudes of so many people:

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This one is a close second:

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Fine Figure of a Man

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You're having a lot of fun building straw men and being absurd, aren't you? Fine, I'll play that game too. Why should their be laws against having sex with children? If a 6 year old says it's OK then who are you to intrude? And how is it any of society's business if I want to have my weiner hanging out when I go to Walmart?

Asking people to wear a piece of cloth over their face isn't oppression. If you think so then you're never encountered real oppression.
You say I'm being absurd then obsess over pedophilia and indecency, interesting.
Does that have anything to do with the real oppression you have encountered?
I think I’ll oppose the ones that don’t seem to have a good reason to exist. It’s something I will consider on an individual basis.
I've considered mask mandates on an individual basis and rejected them. I don't think they have a good reason to exist.
 

Elkins45

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You say I'm being absurd then obsess over pedophilia and indecency, interesting.
Does that have anything to do with the real oppression you have encountered?

I've considered mask mandates on an individual basis and rejected them. I don't think they have a good reason to exist.
So now you have sadly resorted to personal insults. That’s what people do when they are losing an argument. Sorry you can’t grasp the concept of parallel examples.

Lets approach this from a different angle. Are you willing to make any sort of changes in your life at all to benefit society at large? Ever?

I don‘t care if you stick a fork in the outlet but it’s not OK if you do it while grabbing onto my arm. I don’t care if you have an AR with a 30 round magazine but I do care if you shoot it into my windows.

I think this conversation is probably pointless.
 
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Fine Figure of a Man

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So now you have sadly resorted to personal insults. That’s what people do when they are losing an argument. Sorry you can’t grasp the concept of parallel examples.
I grasp that your "parallel examples" oddly gravitate toward perversion and could be used to justify anything, in your mind.
Are you willing to make any sort of changes in your life at all to benefit society at large? Ever?
I do, every day, willing or not.
I think this conversation is probably pointless.
Agreed
I think I’ll oppose the ones that don’t seem to have a good reason to exist. It’s something I will consider on an individual basis.
I would like to know why you should have this option and I should not.
 

Elkins45

Member
I grasp that your "parallel examples" oddly gravitate toward perversion and could be used to justify anything, in your mind.

I do, every day, willing or not.

Agreed

I would like to know why you should have this option and I should not.
...and you double down on the personal insults. Weak.

To answer your final question, you have the option to speak out against any sort of rule you like. You don’t have the option of not following them just because you disagree. You started this whole conversation because you were bragging about how you won’t wear a mask
 

wiscoaster

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@Fine Figure of a Man above in post #52 links to a video of NIAIDS director Dr. Fauci. Anybody who's been paying attention to Dr. Fauci over the course of this pandemic has to recall how many times he's been wrong and how many times he's changed his mind about advice and recommendations on multiple pandemic protocols, therapies and personal safety issues. Frankly at this point, whatever Dr. Fauci recommends on any medical issue, I think my best response for my own health and the health of others is to do the exact opposite of whatever he says.

(and ABC news is not exactly an unbiased source)
 
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theotherwaldo

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According to a recent study, there is a solid reason to wear a mask - or, at least, to keep your mouth shut in public.
It seems that having bleeding or swollen gums makes it roughly nine times as dangerous if you catch COVID... .
 
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