Good news - evolution now accepted by majority of Americans!

theotherwaldo

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In a semi-related story, scientists found the footprints of a bunch of teenagers in a fossilized lake-bank in White Sands park in New Mexico.
The deposit dates between 21,000 and 23, 000 years ago.
Some things don't evolve much - kids still like to play in the mud.

I thought that my campsite find was old at 9,000 years, but this find just blows mine away... .
 

roscoe

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I do not buy into Darwinian evolution. Humans have always been humans. Though Homo Sapien Sapien is relatively new, we did not evolve from the apes. Micro evolution absolutely happens. Everywhere everyday. Macro evolution is another matter entirely that I don't buy into.

Well, the fossil record, comparative biology, and molecular genetics are all consistent with each other, and they offer a different picture from yours. If you are willing to dismiss all those things, then, yes, you can believe anything you want about the origins of our species.
 
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roscoe

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In a semi-related story, scientists found the footprints of a bunch of teenagers in a fossilized lake-bank in White Sands park in New Mexico.
The deposit dates between 21,000 and 23, 000 years ago.
Some things don't evolve much - kids still like to play in the mud.

I thought that my campsite find was old at 9,000 years, but this find just blows mine away... .
It will be debated some, I think. So far, the only solid evidence of humans in North America puts it back to around 13K. From 30-14,000 years ago there was no way to get from Asia to the Americas because of the massive ice sheets that didn't melt till around 13K. Yet genetics and linguistics connects those Siberians and Native Americans today, so that link is solid.

There is kind of a semi-percolating theory that there was an earlier migration of humans that got here first who were more related to Australians and New Guineans. They occasionally find really old skeletons in South America with DNA that links to Australia/New Guinea. But the fact that they are not around anymore (that we can find) means that they must have been wiped out themselves by later Native American peoples related to Siberians (or genetically absorbed, if there were not that many). So, theoretically, the footprints might have come from the Australia/New Guinea group.

I am not involved in any of this work, but I find it really fascinating. Australia and New Guinea were both populated by 50K, and they also got to Japan (they are now the Ainu, shoved up in North Hokkaido), and there is no reason they couldn't have come over to the Americas during the 40-30K gap in the Laurentide Ice Sheet. Then modern Native Americans would have come over from Siberia around 14K years ago when the ice sheet retreated.
 
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