Fauchistas Have Egg on their Faces.

roscoe

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Not at all. That article was presented as evidence in favor of a particular assertion. Upon examination, it proved not to be evidence at all. The claim may (theoretically) be valid, but there hasn't been any evidence presented in support of it.

Until there is evidence, it will remain a simple (and weak) assertion, and logically equivalent to any other unsupported assertion.
No he is not. He has obviously got you thoroughly deceived.

@roscoe I seriously think you need to objectively and dispassionately review these videos:


I've been following Dr. Chris Martenson since January of 2020 and have found him to be a man of integrity - a diligent, forthright, dispassionate and balanced investigator into the facts and circumstances surrounding progression of, and responses to, the pandemic. Nothing he has reported on over that course of time have I found to be untruthful, misleading or self-serving. On the few occasions on which he subsequently discovered he was in error on something he was always forthright and conscientious in admitting his error and in correcting same.

OK, I watched the last video. I was unimpressed. He is building a case in a lawyerly fashion, using loaded language and making a lot of logical leaps to generate suspicion. In particular, he assumes a cover up, then looks for circumstantial evidence to support it. That is exactly how conspiracy theories are built.

If you want to actually examine the emails, and not have them pre-processed by a Youtuber with a clear agenda to gin up hysteria and clicks, they are available here:
 

Selena

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Not at all. I make no statement about the logical absurdity of his argument.

That article was presented as evidence in favor of a particular assertion. Upon examination, it proved not to be evidence at all. The claim may (theoretically) be valid, but there hasn't been any evidence presented in support of it.

Until there is evidence, it will remain a simple (and weak) assertion, and logically equivalent to any other unsupported assertion.
How is quoting the man to be considered an editorial? Honey child, I was raised on a cattle farm and I recognize what you are spewing.
 

roscoe

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How is quoting the man to be considered an editorial? Honey child, I was raised on a cattle farm and I recognize what you are spewing.
Read the complete article. There are a few out-of-context Fauci quotes, then a bunch of comments by another Blaze 'reporter', then some random critical Tweets. What is that? Who let's something like that get published under their masthead? It is not anything approaching journalism, that is for sure.
 

Selena

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Read the complete article. There are a few out-of-context Fauci quotes, then a bunch of comments by another Blaze 'reporter', then some random critical Tweets. What is that? Who let's something like that get published under their masthead? It is not anything approaching journalism, that is for sure.
Yawn, still continuing the appeal to the stone. You are dismissed professor Battaglia
 

roscoe

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Yawn, still continuing the appeal to the stone. You are dismissed professor Battaglia
I don't think you understand 'Argument to the Stone'. It is a simple dismissal without detailed refutation. I offered such a refutation.

I also don't know who Prof. Battaglia is.
 

Selena

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You claim "out of context" yet do not show the real context.

He's the astronomer that gives physicists their marching orders. What kind of "scientist" are you that doesn't keep up with peer review? And yes I am being sarcastic and insulting. That's the reward for continuing annoyance after being dismissed. In short, all our cows are already bred, I do not need your bull.
 

theotherwaldo

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Interesting.
Not only did the Chinese delete their own data about early COVID cases, they apparently had this same data erased from American databases as well, according to an article it The Wall Street Journal.
Admittedly, it was a NIH database, not the NAIAD.
Still, I wonder what Dr. Fauci would say about that... .
 

roscoe

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You claim "out of context" yet do not show the real context.

He's the astronomer that gives physicists their marching orders. What kind of "scientist" are you that doesn't keep up with peer review? And yes I am being sarcastic and insulting. That's the reward for continuing annoyance after being dismissed. In short, all our cows are already bred, I do not need your bull.

My god, what are you talking about? No one gives physicists (or any other scientist) 'marching orders'. Do you not know how science is conducted?
I am not an astronomer, but a biologist, so how on Earth would I know who this person is? You think all 10 million+ scientists of any stripe all know each other by name? Peer review - are you just throwing words out there that sound 'sciency'?

BTW - I am almost 100% sure that the class you listed is an inside joke at Cornell. Hard scientists, particularly physicists, hate postmodernism. Look up the 'science wars'. Or maybe it is a semester-long class-room debate between postmodernists and scientists. Either way, who cares? It has nothing to do with Fauci.

But, by all means, carry on with the farm jokes.
 

Selena

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My god, what are you talking about? No one gives physicists (or any other scientist) 'marching orders'. Do you not know how science is conducted?
I am not an astronomer, but a biologist, so how on Earth would I know who this person is? You think all 10 million+ scientists of any stripe all know each other by name? Peer review - are you just throwing words out there that sound 'sciency'?

BTW - I am almost 100% sure that the class you listed is an inside joke at Cornell. Hard scientists, particularly physicists, hate postmodernism. Look up the 'science wars'. Or maybe it is a semester-long class-room debate between postmodernists and scientists. Either way, who cares? It has nothing to do with Fauci.

But, by all means, carry on with the farm jokes.
What part of sarcastic and insulting to you fail to understand? as for your links... All I've found is politician type denial rhetoric and ads for a cloud service which no, I am not going to reward you by clicking on.
 

roscoe

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What part of sarcastic and insulting to you fail to understand? as for your links... All I've found is politician type denial rhetoric and ads for a cloud service which no, I am not going to reward you by clicking on.
Here is what is at that link: all the actual emails, unfiltered by 'journalists' at 'The Blaze'. To go through them will require you to do your own investigating, not simply be a consumer of 'news' tailored to your browsing history. They come in a large PDF (click the 'download' button).

And yes, I downloaded them, and yes, I have started reading them on my own.

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But just for fun, go to page 103. The Trilateral Commission is asking Fauci to come talk to them. Whatever happened to fear of the Trilateral Commission? It was all the rage in the 1990s with the survivalist kooks. Someone better tell Fox and Alex Jones to get on it! Did Fauci go talk to the world puppetmasters? Only one way to find out!

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Selena

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Here is what is at that link: all the actual emails, unfiltered by 'journalists' at 'The Blaze'. To go through them will require you to do your own investigating, not simply be a consumer of 'news' tailored to your browsing history. They come in a large PDF (click the 'download' button).

And yes, I downloaded them, and yes, I have started reading them on my own.

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But just for fun, go to page 103. The Trilateral Commission is asking Fauci to come talk to them. Whatever happened to fear of the Trilateral Commission? It was all the rage in the 1990s with the survivalist kooks. Someone better tell Fox and Alex Jones to get on it! Did Fauci go talk to the world puppetmasters? Only one way to find out!

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How unique, you share the graphic but not the link. For someone that claims a devotion to science you demand a lot be taken on faith.
 

Selena

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BTW - I am almost 100% sure that the class you listed is an inside joke at Cornell. Hard scientists, particularly physicists, hate postmodernism. Look up the 'science wars'. Or maybe it is a semester-long class-room debate between postmodernists and scientists. Either way, who cares? It has nothing to do with Fauci.
So your argument is that Cornell is going to put classes in their catalog that are either jokes or have nothing to do with the title? Care to show the proof this is common practice or am I to take it on faith in the name of science?
 

roscoe

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So your argument is that Cornell is going to put classes in their catalog that are either jokes or have nothing to do with the title? Care to show the proof this is common practice or am I to take it on faith in the name of science?

No, I am not making an argument about what the professor or Cornell intended. I am arguing, however, that it has nothing to do with this topic, or with me, or with science generally.
 

roscoe

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So, an e-mail with zero information on the "confidencial" portions of the question and the self proclaimed integrity of the Trilateral commission is somehow evidence? For a "scientist" you seem to take a lot on faith. Do you even know how science works?
Ha ha! Awesome. I literally just stumbled across that email while going through the PDF, and threw it out there to see how people would respond. I have no comment on the Trilateral Commission, other than that they are a well-known boogeyman for the right. I didn't even know they still existed. And here they are, emailing Fauci out of the blue. Sometimes life is too funny.
 
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