ETA: Wow, now Harris v Trump! ... 2024 election is repeat of 2020 (Biden vs Trump) with some differences

LiveLife

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Shocking jaw dropping new numbers from ICE director. :oops::oops::oops:
I think NBC Nightly News was the only MSM (Other than Fox News) covering this new Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) report (Jump to 6:30 minute) - https://notechtyranny.com/index.php...vs-trump-with-some-differences.336/post-10017

DOJ indicting Iranians on charges related to hacking Donald Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign at 11:00 minute of video - https://notechtyranny.com/index.php...vs-trump-with-some-differences.336/post-10013

 
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LiveLife

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Could Hurricane Helene aftermath with looming 36 port strikes be the October surprise?

Over 100 dead with millions without power, Harris is fundraising in CA and Biden already stated he won't intervene because it is "collective bargaining" ... But they haven't actively bargained at the table. ;) While Trump is in Georgia distributing relief supplies - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-drags-hurricane-helene-into-2024-campaign/ar-AA1rqxtE

"How elected officials respond to natural disasters and other similar crises can make or break their political futures as well as give them opportunities to show leadership or unity."​
  • “President Trump partnered with Samaritans Purse to deliver truck loads of critical, much needed resources for the people of Georgia including fuel and construction tools,” Trump spokesperson Karoline Leavitt told The Post.
  • Trump also said he spoke to SpaceX and X tycoon Elon Musk about bringing satellite internet to devastated areas.
“I just spoke to Elon [Musk]. We want to get Starlink hooked up because they have no communication whatsoever and Elon will always come through — we know that, so we’re working on that.”​
  • One reporter pushed Biden on why he was in Delaware over the weekend and not in the White House.
“I was commanding it,” Biden quipped, before walking out the door. “I was on the phone for at least two hours yesterday and the day before as well. I command it. It’s called a telephone and all my security people.”​

And dock workers walking out from Maine to Texas could devastate supply chain and hamper economy and voters' pocketbooks.

More than 40,000 U.S. dockworkers could walk off the job soon if their union doesn't reach an agreement over a new contract with the shipping industry.​
 
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LiveLife

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Finally, we got to see civil debate where the candidates looked and sounded presidential, talked cordially and listened to each other to make one ask, "Why aren't these two running for president?" 😁

I think Vance painted himself as possible POTUS for 2028 - 2036 (We could get A LOT of federal judges and Supreme Court justices appointed in 8-12 years).(y) Could voters now be thinking of voting for VP instead of frontrunners? ;)

Full VP debate

NPR's Analysis of the Vice Presidential Debate | NPR Politics

NPR’s Asma Khalid, Susan Davis, Tamara Keith, and Stephen Fowler offer analysis following the “surprisingly midwest nice” Vice Presidential debate between JD Vance and Tim Walz.​
 
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LiveLife

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Could Hurricane Helene aftermath with looming 36 port strikes be the October surprise?
Thankfully 3 day port strike is over and they are going back to the negotiating table - https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/u-s-port-workers-agree-to-end-their-strike/ar-AA1rFhOj

But the deadliest hurricane since Katrina with 215 dead so far is getting worse ...

Feds say there’s no money left to respond to hurricanes — after FEMA spent $1.4B on migrants (What?! :oops:) - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...after-fema-spent-1-4b-on-migrants/ar-AA1rEIvt

"Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas set off outrage Wednesday when he told reporters that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) 'does not have the funds' to see Americans through the rest of this Atlantic hurricane season — after the agency spent more than $1.4 billion since the fall of 2022 to address the migrant crisis."​
 

theotherwaldo

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Yep.
Taking care of illegals that are creating emergencies, that's far more important than taking care of victims of natural disasters...
 

LiveLife

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theotherwaldo

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Bill Maher - another one left behind by the Dems as they charge ever farther left.
-And I loved the looks on his guests' faces during that monologue...
 

LiveLife

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But wait, there's more to "October Surprise" ... :oops::oops:

... new data from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) showing that, as of July 21, 2024, nearly 650,000 criminal illegal aliens were currently on ICE’s Non-Detained Docket (NDD) and roaming free in communities throughout the United States. This figure includes roughly 15,000 individuals convicted of or charged with murder, more than 20,000 of sexual assault, and more than 105,000 of assault:
It may be shocking to hear that the Biden-Harris administration is actively releasing tens of thousands of criminal illegal aliens into our communities, but their own numbers conclusively prove this to be the case. This defies all common sense ..."
In response to House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Mark Green's statement released on September 27 (Post #159), Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas (DHS oversees ICE) clarified on September 30 that new data released by ICE spanned decades - https://apnews.com/article/immigrat...-biden-trump-fc19e795599471c0ab21d76050a71a74

BUT the concern should be focused on the FACT that there are "noncitizens" without identification (whose identities immigration officers cannot confirm) being released by US government (Biden-Harris administration) RIGHT NOW who "may inadvertently increase national security risks". THIS practice needs to STOP.

There's more.

Three agencies within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in recent years did not fully weigh risks of allowing some noncitizens to enter the U.S. and board flights - https://wgme.com/news/nation-world/...n-cbp-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-ice

New US Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General report released September 30 details this problem - https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2024-10/OIG-24-65-Sep24-Redacted.pdf

FINAL REPORT - CBP, ICE, and TSA Did Not Fully Assess Risks Associated with Releasing Noncitizens without Identification into the United States and Allowing Them to Travel on Domestic Flights (REDACTED):​
MEMORANDUM FOR: ... Transportation Security Administration ... Customs and Border Protection ... Immigration and Customs Enforcement​
FROM: Joseph V. Cuffari, Ph.D. Inspector General​
The report contains three recommendations aimed at improving CBP’s, ICE’s, and TSA’s ability to assess risks to public safety of noncitizens released into the United States without identification and boarding domestic flights. Your office did not concur with the recommendations. Based on information provided in your response to the draft report, we consider recommendations 1, 2, and 3 open and unresolved.​
As prescribed by the Department of Homeland Security Directive 077-01, Follow-Up and Resolutions for the Office of Inspector General Report Recommendations, within 90 days of the date of this memorandum, please provide our office with a written response that includes your (1) agreement or disagreement, (2) corrective action plan, and (3) target completion date for each recommendation ...​
... What We Found
Although U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) have policies and procedures to check the identity of noncitizens seeking entry into the United States, they cannot always verify the noncitizens’ identities. According to Federal law, noncitizens without identification are not admissible into the country and shall be detained. However, CBP and ICE officials are permitted to release noncitizens into the United States based on various considerations. Prior to releasing these individuals, CBP and ICE immigration officers accept self-reported biographical information, which they use to issue various immigration forms. Once in the United States, noncitizens can travel on domestic flights.
Noncitizens without Transportation Security Administration (TSA)- acceptable identification are allowed to board domestic flights. Before doing so, TSA requires them to undergo vetting and additional screening. Transportation security officers query law enforcement and immigration databases to validate the information on Department of Homeland Security–issued immigration forms and then conduct additional screening procedures such as pat downs. TSA’s vetting and screening procedures do not eliminate the risk that noncitizens who may pose a threat to fellow passengers could board domestic flights. Under current processes, CBP and ICE cannot ensure they are keeping high-risk noncitizens without identification from entering the country. Additionally, TSA cannot ensure its vetting and screening procedures prevent high-risk noncitizens who may pose a threat to the flying public from boarding domestic flights.​
DHS Response - The Department did not concur with our recommendations.​
... Conclusion
(Redacted) CBP, ICE, and TSA have developed and implemented policies and procedures to screen noncitizens. However, their efforts (Redacted) If CBP and ICE continue to allow noncitizens — whose identities immigration officers cannot confirm — to enter the country, they may inadvertently increase national security risks.​
 
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LiveLife

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"We the People" elect the 47th president by Electoral College and the popular vote! :)(y)

I guess polls, MSM and even professor Lichtman were all wrong, once again (But polymarket was correct) - https://politicalpulse.net/us-politics/alan-lichtmans-prediction-for-2024/

Trump wins and Republicans control the Senate (House results still up in the air) - https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4975849-trump-harris-2024-presidential-run/

In his victory speech, Trump promises to "Make America Great Again" and deliver "Golden Age" to America. He will be able to appoint hundreds of federal judges and perhaps Supreme Court justices in the next four years - https://www.newsweek.com/trump-victory-could-mean-new-supreme-court-gop-pollster-1981068

 
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LiveLife

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Donald Trump has won the presidential election and will return to the White House - https://www.npr.org/2024/11/06/nx-s1-5180057/donald-trump-wins-2024-election
  • Trump won the key states of Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, with a combined 29 electoral votes to clinch the 270 necessary to win the presidency. As of 5:34 am ET Wednesday, Trump had 277 electoral votes total.
  • Republicans say Trump won the election for one simple reason. Voters felt that they were better off four years ago than they were today.
  • The former reality star and real estate magnate weathered crisis after crisis, each one career ending for most any politician. But he maintained steadfast and unwavering support among his base and convinced just enough Americans to send him back to the White House.
  • The results were a blow not only to Vice President Harris, but also to the legacy of President Biden whose administration struggled with border challenges, high inflation and increasing uncertainty around the world.
 

theotherwaldo

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-About the polls - many of the ones that the media promoted had a response completion rate of between two and six percent.
Results were then projected from this pitiful handful of polls...
 

LiveLife

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The Hill: Republicans win House, delivering Trump a trifecta - https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4974235-house-republicans-control-majority/
  • Republicans are projected to keep control of the House of Representatives
  • Decision Desk HQ projected the GOP would hold the House by winning its 218th seat on Monday
  • The electoral result is likely to influence the legislative fights that remain in the final weeks of the 118th Congress. Hard-line conservatives will be eager to delay consideration of must-pass proposals until the new year, when a Republican Senate and White House could result in more conservative policies and lower spending levels.
 
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LiveLife

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"Everybody knew Donald Trump was going to win ... Their agenda ... they lied to American people ... They didn't care about the middle class ... People said we can't take this anymore and we were going to send a message"​

Election 2024 - Why Trump Won | Victor Davis Hanson

Victor Davis Hanson joins John after President-elect Trump's victory to explore why his direct style resonated with middle America. Hanson examines the economic and social factors driving Trump’s appeal, from rising inflation and border insecurity, to the sense of exclusion felt by many Americans. This interview highlights the stark divide between global elites and everyday citizens, examining how media and institutions underestimated public frustration.​
Hanson argues that Trump’s policies address real concerns, fostering a lasting loyalty among voters. In addition to domestic dynamics, Hanson assesses Trump’s assertive approach to foreign policy, from NATO to trade relations, and its effect on global alliances.​
Victor Davis Hanson is the Martin and Illie Anderson Senior Fellow in Residence in Classics and Military History at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. He is a nationally syndicated columnist and has written many books on ancient and modern warfare. His most recent books are The End of Everything: How Wars Descend into Annihilation and The Case for Trump: 2024 Edition.​
  • 00:00 Introduction
  • 01:24 Why the electoral map turned red
  • 05:37 Trump victory is a win for democracy
  • 08:46 The decisiveness of Trump's victory
  • 12:35 Can Trump heal America?
  • 15:47 Disconnect between the population and the elites
  • 19:33 The possibility of election fraud
  • 22:18 Will the United States settle down now?
  • 25:52 Media bias and election coverage
  • 29:59 Bilateral relationships and Trump's vindictiveness
  • 32:40 Trump will be more experienced now
  • 39:40 Trump's approach to the Middle-eastern conflict
  • 43:14 Trump's approach to the Russo-Ukrainian conflict
  • 50:20 Trump's presidency unwelcome in Beijing
  • 56:14 A reset of environmental policy under Trump
  • 59:52 The worrying state of the US budget
  • 1:03:47 Tariffs and trade under Trump
  • 1:09:53 Geopolitical awareness in Australia
 
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LiveLife

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Politico: Why Kamala Harris lost the election - Harris refused to make a clean break from the last four years - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/...lities-led-to-a-bloodbath-for-harris-00187807
  • [Election] result ... was brutal for Harris, a bloodbath for Democrats across the map
  • Harris inherited a campaign from Joe Biden ... unpopularity and inability to carry a message
  • ... She never sufficiently buried Biden’s ghost, severely hamstringing her ability to sell voters on the idea that hers was the turn-the-page candidacy
  • ... Harris refused to make a clean break from the last four years when voters indicated that’s what they wanted ... she hesitated to draw any daylight between herself and her boss on Biden’s biggest vulnerability — his stewardship over the economy — nor identify any specific way her presidency would be different from his tenure beyond naming a Republican to her Cabinet
  • ... one Harris aide ... “Joe Biden is the singular reason Kamala Harris and Democrats lost tonight.”
  • ... “This is a solid Republican victory, and the largest Republican victory by a presidential candidate since Ronald Reagan in 1984"
  • Three weeks before Election Day in Pennsylvania ... Jewish Democrats and their allies met behind closed doors with Harris officials in Pittsburgh ...The infighting and second-guessing was already beginning.
  • “There’s no amount of social media ads or TV ads or podcast interviews or anything that you can do that’s going to influence people ...”
  • Democrats were also starting to point fingers at Harris’ data team ... falling short of expectations
  • While Democrats led by the Future Forward PAC launched unprecedented spending into the battlegrounds with a focus on Harris as a middle-class warrior, Trump and his allies spent tens of millions on spots that left a more visceral mark — such as those featuring Harris’ support for providing taxpayer-funded gender transition-related medical care for detained immigrants and federal prisoners
  • The plan they formulated ... making the election a referendum on Trump and not on her unpopular boss
  • All went according to plan ... the idea that she represented the safer option ... That’s why she spent so much time campaigning with ... never-Trumpers; why she ... relentlessly advertised her own middle-class upbringing while bombarding the airwaves with messages about Trump’s dangerous economic policies
  • After the initial elation among Democrats settled, Harris began to face questions from the media — and criticism from Trump and his campaign — over her not sitting for interviews with major news outlets
  • It took Harris more than a month before she sat down for her first extended interview, and then afterwards only went on a few select shows and friendly media outlets
  • Harris chose not to provide extensive explanation, or sometimes any rationale at all, for the gaping chasm between many of her past policy positions on everything from hydraulic fracturing (a huge issue in Pennsylvania) and clean car mandates (a big deal in Michigan) to providing citizenship to unauthorized immigrants brought to the U.S. as children
  • She led with a “my principles haven’t changed” approach that would have to serve as a catch-all.
  • Harris ... refusal to separate from Biden
 
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theotherwaldo

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-As a 1980's business Democrat, Trump was seen by most people as a better Democrat than Kamala - and a better conservative Republican than any of his opponents... .
 

LiveLife

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What REALLY happened ... voters voted ... all across the country ... "experts" and pollsters were so wrong ... Election was far from coin-flip close

"Democrats did protect democracy ... Just for the other side < facepalm >"​

Jon Stewart explores what Democrats did wrong during the election ...

 
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LiveLife

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez shares what she learned from "split" voters who voted for her and also for Trump or who didn't vote for Harris
  • There was rage among working Americans ...Righteous rage
  • What voters heard from lying/cheating/sexist/"criminal felon" Trump was, "I am fighting FOR YOU"
  • "Even Donald Trump cared about Trans people".
  • Trump campaign focused on "Donald Trump is for you"
  • Democrat/Harris campaign spoke in terms of concepts but NOT "in the person" ... What was missing was "I care about you" message to the voters
  • Democrat/Harris campaign ran Harris vs Trump campaign and not "Who cares about you more"
  • When you are working 2-3 jobs to make ends meet, you are not reading the newspaper with a cup of coffee ... "This is real life"
 
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