Enlighten me please?

Howland937

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What the hell is the deal with these companies making "plant based" burgers, chicken tenders, etc?
Looks like meat, feels like meat, tastes like meat? Do people really enjoy all this meatiness without actually having meat? I'd think the point would be eating things that don't resemble meat so you can tell all your hippie folk how vegan you are. Then go home and dry hump your IT Friend.
 

wiscoaster

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It's all part of a conspiracy to turn the world vegetarian ... well, except China, where people eat anything and everything remotely resembling animal life.
 

theotherwaldo

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I was raised in a religion that had a vegetarian fetish imposed by old man Post and old man Kellogg, a pair of sanitarium owners.
They had convinced folks that a meat-free diet would reduce the animalistic nature of mankind.
They got very rich and their companies continue to crank out meat-free foods to this day.

They didn't care what it REALLY tasted like, they just want to crank out soy-boys... and get rich.
 

wiscoaster

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Kellogg's has gone off the rails into social justice wokeness, and I'm thinking of selling my stock, but I've owned it for so long the capital gains taxes are just going to kill me.
 
What the hell is the deal with these companies making "plant based" burgers, chicken tenders, etc?
Looks like meat, feels like meat, tastes like meat? Do people really enjoy all this meatiness without actually having meat? I'd think the point would be eating things that don't resemble meat so you can tell all your hippie folk how vegan you are. Then go home and dry hump your IT Friend.

As another menu option, this falls under "who cares?" for me.

It's an option on the menu. Choose it or not, just as you would any other menu item.

As an agenda-driven issue for some, who would seek to eliminate meat-based foods, I don't care for it.

That's about it for me.
 

Selena

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It's simply an attempt to open a new value added market for soybeans. There are no illusions the company(s) can replace beef but they realize there is a niche market large enough to earn a profit.
 
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roscoe

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It's simply an attempt to open a new value added market for soybeans. There are no illusions the company(s) can replace beef but they realize there is a niche market large enough to earn a profit.
Exactly. They provide a product. You don't want it, don't buy it. It is not some big political conspiracy.

The flouride in the water is another matter. Did you know that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face? Just ask Group Captain Mandrake.
 

wiscoaster

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Flouride is a known neurotoxin, and I have a sensitivity to it. I know when I've used flouridated toothpaste or mouthwash. I don't know if flouridation is a plot, but it is just plain bad science.
 

Selena

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Exactly. They provide a product. You don't want it, don't buy it. It is not some big political conspiracy.

The flouride in the water is another matter. Did you know that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face? Just ask Group Captain Mandrake.
Since I have idea none who Captain Mandrake is I will leave him be. Fluoridation could be viewed as government forced medication which I believe is illegal under international law after the Nuremberg trials.
 

roscoe

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Since I have idea none who Captain Mandrake is I will leave him be. Fluoridation could be viewed as government forced medication which I believe is illegal under international law after the Nuremberg trials.

If you haven't seen Dr. Strangelove, then you might look for it. One of the great Cold-War satires:


But you might want to check that whole Nuremburg thing. Governments around the world oblige their people to take medications all the time. Not that fluoride would be that - it is a naturally occurring element. And no one forces you to drink it.
 

theotherwaldo

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Not that fluoride would be that - it is a naturally occurring element. And no one forces you to drink it.
Cyanide and lead occur naturally as well.
That's why I use a reverse-osmosis water filter.
You can have too much of a good thing... .
 

wiscoaster

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.... And no one forces you to drink it.
I take it you never brush your teeth?? Ick!! You don't need to actually swallow it ... it's readily absorbed through mucous membranes.
EVERY major-label toothpaste contains flouride. You really have to hunt for non-flouridated toothpaste and it's not to be found in some grocery stores. Often can only be found at health-food stores.
 

roscoe

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I take it you never brush your teeth?? Ick!! You don't need to actually swallow it ... it's readily absorbed through mucous membranes.
EVERY major-label toothpaste contains flouride. You really have to hunt for non-flouridated toothpaste and it's not to be found in some grocery stores. Often can only be found at health-food stores.

Well, twice a day, but fluoride doesn't bother me. You might look into reverse-osmosis filters. I can't help you with the toothpaste. Maybe baking powder? I don't know if the traditional Roman method would suit, but it ain't for me!
 
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Selena

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If you haven't seen Dr. Strangelove, then you might look for it. One of the great Cold-War satires:



But you might want to check that whole Nuremburg thing. Governments around the world oblige their people to take medications all the time. Not that fluoride would be that - it is a naturally occurring element. And no one forces you to drink it.

Item 1:) Mr Reagan made the cold war and it's satires irrelevant. You may find them entertaining but I find them at best dated.

Item 2 :) While I cannot say for the rest of the country, in this area cities, towns and villages routinely condemn wells within their water/sewage area. Since city water usually has fluoride added... few people can afford to cook with bottled water.

Since the "naturally occuring" is a statement I would expect to come only from the village idiot or Joe Biden I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it was sarcasm. Just in case it was not... there is an old church in the town of Lee that shows signs of radon in the basement. If you like I will refer you to the real estate agent as radon is also an naturally occurring element.
 

roscoe

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Item 1:) Mr Reagan made the cold war and it's satires irrelevant. You may find them entertaining but I find them at best dated.

Item 2 :) While I cannot say for the rest of the country, in this area cities, towns and villages routinely condemn wells within their water/sewage area. Since city water usually has fluoride added... few people can afford to cook with bottled water.

Since the "naturally occuring" is a statement I would expect to come only from the village idiot or Joe Biden I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it was sarcasm. Just in case it was not... there is an old church in the town of Lee that shows signs of radon in the basement. If you like I will refer you to the real estate agent as radon is also an naturally occurring element.

My point was that, as a naturally occurring element that is frequently found in groundwater, it seems too strong to call it a 'medication'. It is more akin to a vitamin. I wouldn't call the Vitamin D in my milk a medication. Otherwise you could call water itself a medication.

If you don't find Dr. Strangelove funny, I don't know what to say. I lived through the Cold War, and it was hysterically spot-on. Do you dislike all the black and white movies from before 1960 because they are dated? If you don't like Casablanca, or Sunset Boulevard, or Stagecoach, well, you don't know what you are missing.
 
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Selena

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My point was that, as a naturally occurring element that is frequently found in groundwater, it seems too strong to call it a 'medication'. It is more akin to a vitamin. I wouldn't call the Vitamin D in my milk a medication. Otherwise you could call water itself a medication.

If you don't find Dr. Strangelove funny, I don't know what to say. I lived through the Cold War, and it was hysterically spot-on. Do you dislike all the black and white movies from before 1960 because they are dated? If you don't like Casablanca, or Sunset Boulevard, or Stagecoach, well, you don't know what you are missing.
Your point is that somehow natural = wholesome and that the addition to the diet is voluntary. Hydrogen Sulfide and iron compounds are also naturally occurring in groundwater yet cities go to great expense to remove these.

I would explain my entertainment preferences but you have already made your judgment to my character so it would be a waste of time.
 
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