America haters, why don't they leave to find a better place?

str8_forward

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unbelievable!

Get the [email protected] out of here and compete for somalia or zimbabwe, you'd be living in a nice hut and have great sponsor's.

The ONLY acceptable solution to this stunt, throw her off the team immediately, and this should be done to ANY athlete who is representing the United States!

 
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Good Ol' Boy

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Because its what Communist do.

Hate the country, love the party.

In our unfortunate case we're beyond anything previous Communists could have dreamed of.
 

wiscoaster

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....

In our unfortunate case we're beyond anything previous Communists could have dreamed of.

No, it's exactly what they planned for and incrementally and patiently executed brilliantly, and is much too close to coming to fruition:

 

roscoe

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This is an ignorant and offensive thread. The whole 'love it or leave it' routine has always been BS. These people see things they want to change and are doing it. You couldn't be more American than that - it was the whole basis for the US Constitution.

Calling people communists - just juvenile. You might as well call someone stupid and ugly, for all the information content the appellation has here. I believe the poster who made this claim is 'ignoring' me, which is both cowardly and onanistic.

Really - telling Black Americans (I assume that is what 13% means) to go 'home' is downright ignorant. African Americans are as American as anybody - they have been on this continent, and in the US, longer than most groups, and as long as any (non-Native American). The US is their 'home', for more than for most folks. Any suggestion otherwise, in which their skin color is used as the identifier of their home is, frankly, racist. Zimbabwe? Somalia? Really? No American slaves came from those regions in Africa. Given the genetic and geographic distances, It is like telling Irish immigrants to go 'home' to Ukraine or Turkey. Just so dirt ignorant!

Finally, just as a general observation, as if folks don't already know, the user 'str8_forward' is an ignorant racist - look over his posts, especially in the 'joke' meme thread. He is a coward, and dodges me here ('ignore' might be a better term), because he knows he cannot answer the questions I pose. I urge folks to be careful of agreeing with him - you might not really share the values he espouses, since his posts are barely comprehensible screeds of bilious froth.
 
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roscoe

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The reason they don't leave is because they know full well they'd be worse off anywhere else. This is about the only place they can do their sh*t and not get arrested and sent to the gulag.
Give me a break - don't you read the news? People protest the world round.
 

theotherwaldo

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Yeah, but in most of the world, protesters get broken heads and prison terms.
In the U.S., protesters break heads and send law enforcement officers to prison.
 

roscoe

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Yeah, but in most of the world, protesters get broken heads and prison terms.
In the U.S., protesters break heads and send law enforcement officers to prison.
That is just not true. In very few countries do police employ aggressive violence. In most countries, protest plays out much as it does here. Have you ever seen video of protests in France, Argentina, Poland, England, Chile, etc. etc.? Very much like ours. Yes, in some authoritarian regimes it is dangerous to protest.

But let's not let this idea of American exceptionalism get too far out of hand. Nowadays, most of the word is run by democracies.
 

roscoe

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Why not? Our ancestors bled and died to earn it. Why are we so ready to give it up?

We are exceptional in some ways, but not all ways. Plenty of other countries allow public protest. Plenty of other countries allow free speech. Plenty of other countries have freedom of information acts. Sure, we led the way, 200 years ago, but the world has started to catch up. My point is that your statement about the US being the only place where freedom exists is simply empirically false.

And give it up? We have far more freedom in the US today than in 1789.

democracy in 1842 (0.5% of World's population):
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democracy today (~50% of the World's population):
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theotherwaldo

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You keep insisting that the U.S. is a democracy.
We are not.
We are a republic, with some of our positions filled using democratic processes and some of our state and local laws and regulations controlled by democratic processes.
True democracies normally devolve into some form of autocracy within 20 to 40 years.
I'd rather not do that... .
 

roscoe

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You keep insisting that the U.S. is a democracy.
We are not.
We are a republic, with some of our positions filled using democratic processes and some of our state and local laws and regulations controlled by democratic processes.
True democracies normally devolve into some form of autocracy within 20 to 40 years.
I'd rather not do that... .
Semantics. By historical standards, the US was the first modern democracy, and the world has been following suit. I don't know where you get your 20-40 year rule, but democracies are pretty stable - I don't see too many countries on that map that went from blue to brown. Russia, I suppose, and a few others, but the trends are clearly the other way. Australia, UK, France, Norway, Belgium, etc. etc. have been stable democracies for a long time.
 
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theotherwaldo

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-Finally ignored someone.
I got tired of dealing with a person that demanded evidence for every statement that I made but always rejected any evidence that was provided.
Then, when asked for evidence in turn, that person provided clips from outfits like CNN and Wikipedia... .
Nope.
Just nope.
 

str8_forward

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-Finally ignored someone.
I got tired of dealing with a person that demanded evidence for every statement that I made but always rejected any evidence that was provided.
Then, when asked for evidence in turn, that person provided clips from outfits like CNN and Wikipedia... .
Nope.
Just nope.
not insulting anyone here on this forum, (wink wink) but if somebody is 104% of the time wrong, there is no way to argue with him.
I have some of the same dumbfucks in my family....................
Somebody once said (and it wasn't Einstein): The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.
 

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