Will SCOTUS rule that the states actions in 2020 election were illegal but moot since Biden has been inaugurated?

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roscoe

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tyrant said:
The cases that could be granted cert by SCOTUS have enough votes to over-turn the election.


And the current cases before the Supreme Court aren't about election fraud per se, they are about actions taken by election officials that are unconstitutional.


And they are correct.


They passed laws such as expanding mail-in voting without passing through the legislature, putting in the paper, and having 2 hearings as their states constitution states must be done to be legal. It is actually a very strong case for Trump apparently.



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Supreme Court to Consider 2020 Election Challenge Lawsuits in February Conference

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I wouldn't hang my hat on any analysis done in the Epoch Times. Seriously.

And if any of these challenges were going to have an actual effect on the outcome of 2020, then SCOTUS, with 6 conservative justices, half appointed by Trump, would have heard them already. Sydney Powell and Lin Wood will not get a good reception by SCOTUS.
 
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roscoe

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Blue Jays said:
When there are more votes cast for a candidate than even live in the entire voting precinct the whole system is hosed.
Voting machines should have zero internet connectivity. It should have a single plug that goes into wall outlet. That's it.
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Which precinct was this?
 
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tyrant

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roscoe said:
I wouldn't hang my hat on any analysis done in the Epoch Times. Seriously.

And if any of these challenges were going to have an actual effect on the outcome of 2020, then SCOTUS, with 6 conservative justices, half appointed by Trump, would have heard them already. Sydney Powell and Lin Wood will not get a good reception by SCOTUS.
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Although I believe Dominion was involved in changing votes it is much harder to prove.


Proving that election officials changed laws illegally is a much easier case to make and prove since it was so blatant.
 
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WrongHanded

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I think the better question is: If SCOTUS either refuses the case based on lack of evidence, or takes the case and rules against the plaintiff, will the conspiracy theorists finally drop this idea that the election was rigged?

I'm guessing, no.
 
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roscoe

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WrongHanded said:
I think the better question is: If SCOTUS either refuses the case based on lack of evidence, or takes the case and rules against the plaintiff, will the conspiracy theorists finally drop this idea that the election was rigged?

I'm guessing, no.
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Right - because under the conspiracy mindset, there is always a deeper conspiracy explaining it all. Maybe Justices Thomas and Alito are sleeper agents for ANTIFA!
 
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Howland937

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roscoe said:
Right - because under the conspiracy mindset, there is always a deeper conspiracy explaining it all. Maybe Justices Thomas and Alito are sleeper agents for ANTIFA!
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Nah, they're only "deep state" actors. They're not terrorist sympathizers. Don't be ridiculous 🤣
 
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Howland937

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roscoe said:
, with 6 conservative justices, half appointed by Trump
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I do wonder if the sky is still falling because of the conservative majority on the SC or if the fact they've shot Trump down repeatedly has alleviated any concerns. It doesn't appear to have become the Supreme Court of Trump like a lot of people feared.
 
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tyrant said:
Although I believe Dominion was involved in changing votes it is much harder to prove.
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It's been proven to my satisfaction. And I'm almost the orignal "doubting Thomas". The doubters are just refusing to even look at the proofs. Or finding some flimsy reason to say "not possible". Those who understand computers, the internet, statistics and probabilities cannot remain being doubters unless intentionally so, because admitting changed votes opens up a whole new rabbit hole they're afraid to go down.
 
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roscoe

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wiscoaster said:
It's been proven to my satisfaction. And I'm almost the orignal "doubting Thomas". The doubters are just refusing to even look at the proofs. Or finding some flimsy reason to say "not possible". Those who understand computers, the internet, statistics and probabilities cannot remain being doubters unless intentionally so, because admitting changed votes opens up a whole new rabbit hole they're afraid to go down.
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OK, share your information. I do understand computers, statistics, probabilities, and the internet.
 
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WrongHanded

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wiscoaster said:
It's been proven to my satisfaction. And I'm almost the orignal "doubting Thomas". The doubters are just refusing to even look at the proofs. Or finding some flimsy reason to say "not possible". Those who understand computers, the internet, statistics and probabilities cannot remain being doubters unless intentionally so, because admitting changed votes opens up a whole new rabbit hole they're afraid to go down.
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There's a big difference between it being possible to change votes via electronic voting machines, and it actually being done. Which is where evidence becomes necessary. Apparently the courts don't like to substitute conjecture and hearsay for evidence. Something for which we should all be grateful.
 
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tyrant

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roscoe said:
Well, I didn't see Trump's name anywhere on those ballots, and it was in New Hampshire - not a contested state. I am not saying there are never errors in elections, or software, merely that I haven't seen any evidence of large-scale fraud to deny Trump the election.
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It's the same software and machines used in the 2020 Presidential election, and they claim it had issues then.

Also the only issues are against Republicans which is telling.
 
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WrongHanded

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tyrant said:
It's the same software and machines used in the 2020 Presidential election, and they claim it had issues then.

Also the only issues are against Republicans which is telling.
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If you look at the photo of the recount sheet, you'll see that 3 of the 4 democrats gained votes with the hand recount.

Have there not been hand recounts of the presidential election where Dominion machines were used? Any significant difference in vote tallies in those instances?
 
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My problem with the Dominion machines is that they are open to this type of meddling.
They are not supposed to be able to be connected to the internet by wi-fi, for example.
When you can change the programming of the machines remotely or by simply plugging in a USB drive then the trail of evidence is broken.
This needs to change.
 
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roscoe

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theotherwaldo said:
My problem with the Dominion machines is that they are open to this type of meddling.
They are not supposed to be able to be connected to the internet by wi-fi, for example.
When you can change the programming of the machines remotely or by simply plugging in a USB drive then the trail of evidence is broken.
This needs to change.
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I voted on a Dominion machine. When you complete your vote, it makes a paper ballot under a window that you can check for accuracy. For each voter, the paper roll scrolls forward and prints a new paper ballot. So there is a way to check your votes, and there is a paper trail. When they check the votes, they look at the paper record, which has already been checked by each voter. Even if there were some way to hack the electronic record, I am not sure how easy it would be to cheat the paper record.

It seems like a pretty good system to me, and no one has ever really offered evidence that there is a problem with it. Just allegations thrown out by Trump when he started losing.
 
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